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Roses - My New Electric Violin
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cdennyb
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@Fiddlerman... if you were considering selling these, I was privileged to be able to address an issue that made it just almost impossible to play easily for Toni. The bridge top was FAR from the 'standard' 42mm radius curve. In fact it wasn't even close, and she had made me aware it was very difficult to not get double stops when bowing. So, I took my box with me I use on "house calls" and proceeded to retrim the offending material off, got it to the proper 42mm radius curve and changed the string height a little to match her Soloist bridge in geometry and put the string spacing exactly where she was used to having it. BINGO...

She stopped hitting multiple strings when bowing and also the drop in massive string height on it allowed her to play in 2nd and 3rd finger position much easier without the center string dropping below the level of the adjacent strings as it normally does. 

As Toni related, I think these types of violins are made well, of course mass produced and then dipped, like the hydrographics process described below.

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The first violin she got had an electronics issue with the preamp box I suspect. I tested everything else and all that remained was the preamp so logic told me it was more like a QC issue at the mfg facility, as they should've tested every one for proper operation before sending it out, which they didn't. There was no outside damage to the carton or violin so I discount shipping damage to be the cause of it not making any sound.

The edges are quite sharp and defined and the overlay of the printing is clean without bubbles and the bridge was of course sanded nice and flat and after tightening the strings many times as they stretched, it required numerous adjustments to get it back up straight. The sound was acceptable and obviously dependent on the downstream electronics for quality and clarity. I don't doubt there are better quality electronic out there but this one had a decent preamp installed in it, which replacements are available on e-bay for around $20 should the unit fail in the future.

These would seemingly be a good entry level violin that appeals to the younger flashy female crowd I think and you probably would do well with them in your line up. Not trying to promote them or anything but it did seem to be a decent instrument. Just giving my personal up close and personal observations since I was right in the middle of the one that didn't work! Ha.

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Thanks Dennis,

They had all kinds of designs. I remember the design that Toni bought and one with the American flag all over it as well.

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@Fiddlerman 

So with the sound  being "not too exciting" on this violin, as far as enough for you to carry in your shop.  Is it because it is just limited by the electronics??? or .... would a string change make it better.  

I mean for me it is fun and pretty cool sounding, and I don't think I need to do anything right now.  I am just curious for the future.  ( you know how we are about buying stuff toys and toys for our toys...)     :)

The violin that I really like is the Electric Skyinbow. (Kelly from the forum here has one)  Those are in the complete different price zone x 10.   :)   Did you have a chance to check them out at NAMM?

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Not that Toni. The ones at NAMM were not well set up. These were coming directly from China. I picture the amount of work we would require for every instrument and the time involved. I imagine yours is better set up. The sound of an electric violin depends very much on your signal processing equipment. You can surely get it to sound very exciting with the right effects. :)

Skyinbow violin production in UK is very limited and the company only offers a very small dealer discount off list price. We will be selling the Skyinbow Pure acoustic Pick-up System at Fiddlershop which is a fully active, barely visible and easy to install on any acoustic violin. I have one in the shop now and just trying to choose a violin to install it on.

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@Fiddlerman  I see what you are saying. Gotcha. :)

  Actually I ended up not trusting anyone to sell it to me other than the actual manufacturer in China, mine was shipped from Kinglos in China.  After I had been emailing  the Sales manager for about two weeks.  I finally trusted them enough to send it.  They were very nice to deal with.  Gave me a forever customer discount code to use too.   :)  (I know they must cost next to nothing.. LOL. )

My violin was NOT set up.  The bridge was off and the strings were loose and hanging tucked under the fingerboard.   IT took me at least and hour to place and tune and place and tune. I was so nervous but I did a pretty good job. 

Then later that week the bridge got modified, on side was VERY tall. :)

>>>>>>>>>>so I have my amp.. and I had the pleasure of a taste of a little FX box and today I have this arriving today.... facepalm  So I hope I can make some good sounds. :)

Behringer Q1202USB 12-Channel Mixer

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Don't worry Toni, you're in good hands... LoL Got the same one...P3020096.JPGImage Enlarger

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The little Behringer mixers are a good choice, they hold up and aren't real expensive.  Mine is an earlier line, from back before Behringer had that bit of trouble with Mackie.  So no USB or FX built in, which I don't need anyway because I have a USB audio interface and a couple of rack multi-effect units.

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But especially the newer ones with built in USB and FX are a very easy-to-learn way to get a signal from a mic or electric instrument into a computer and recording software, and plenty of versatility to give some room to grow into a nice little home studio.  Way ahead of trying to just plug into an average computer soundcard, and easier.  They make a very cost effective item of entry level gear for being able to do some reasonably decent home recording.

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Using effects can be a lot of fun. Hope you enjoy it Toni. :)

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So now my lastest splurge...

Okay... actually I have had it for a while.

But there is an app for Iphone / Ipad Called StudioMini.  ($3.99)

It's kind of fun to play with .... 

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 Studio Mini... I like it. May download the app.

 

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That looks great CPO - I'm jealous. laugh

I'd love an electric, but I need to get a decent acoustic before I spend on anything else (and I've already spent a fortune on instruments as it is!).

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@Jim Dunleavy  -  I like playing Electric. (about once or twice a week).  I have a long way to go on my acoustic.    When I play the electric and then the acoustic I find I have to work harder on the acoustic.  It is frustrating but I think it is kind of a good thing.  It also forces me to find the notes on violins where the notes are in different places.. and the strings are not exactly alike.  

Being a creature of habit and pretty rigid... this is good for me to "lighten up a bit."

 

@fiddlestix 

Its a fun, cheap little app.  Let me know if you have fun with it.

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