Tyberius said
I have been playing for 10.5 months now. You'd think I would know this. I often think I do, but then somebody throws a shark in my hot tub.

Here's what I know (which may be wrong)

A Flat lowers your note by 1 semitone

A Sharp raises your note by 1 semitone

a Natural is the note.

Here is my problem using the above information that I know (which may be wrong).

I look at a fingering chart for first position E string (example). The F note flat is the same as a E sharp. An F natural is an F sharp but it's also a G flat. What in the name of blazes am I even looking at or trying to deduce from my beloved information (which may be wrong). Why have a sharp at all if its the next note's flat? Why have a flat if its the previous note's sharp? Why have any sharp or flat at all if people use vibrato to mask tone/fingering mistakes all together.

I think I'm going to take up fire wooding again. The stain on a violin makes a beautiful blue flame in the fire pit. However, it makes the marshmellows taste a bit odd. I guess thats part of the music. Some times you like melody and tone, other times its just varnish smokey marshmellows.

 

Wow you are cornfuzed! - According to my piano which contains all the known  notes in the known chromatic scale there are a few constants. There is no Bsharp or Cflat. No Esharp or Fflat.

Now according to some scientific stuff and physics all notes have a hertz. That being said, a Bflat is a different hz than an Asharp which are essentially the same notes on the keyboard.

Also some Key Signatures show the non existent sharps and flats as I recently discovered which is really cornfusing until you realize why. (im not tellin)

that being said, You said "I look at a fingering chart for first position E string (example). The F note flat is the same as a E sharp. An F natural is an F sharp but it's also a G flat. What in the name of blazes am I even looking at or trying to deduce from my beloved information (which may be wrong). Why have a sharp at all if its the next note's flat? Why have a flat if its the previous note's sharp? Why have any sharp or flat at all if people use vibrato to mask tone/fingering mistakes all together."

Actually the F note flat is an E. The F note natural is halfway approx between the nut and the Fsharp and is described as a low first finger. The same position as a Bflat or Eflat or Gsharp on their respective strings. The first finger position is the Fsharp and is taught this way when Cmaj isnt the first key fingering learned. The Fsharp is in every other maj sharp key. the term sharp or flat is determined by the key signature and some are more common than others. Sharps and flats create musical variety.

"The origional piano was invented long ago and had only one key. It was very easy to compose music for but eventually all the music sounded the same and people got bored with it. It wasnt until someone invented the cracks between the keys that the piano as we know it evolved." - Victor Borge.

My ability to play by ear is improving as I go along, I envy you and the others that this comes to naturally.

Not to get into a pissing match of semantics over this but NOT FALSE. nuf said.

this is not the appropriate forum for us to get into it over this. Come over to the chat box and id be happy to set you straight.

Alrighty:  

ACCORDING TO MY PIANO which contains all the known  notes in the known chromatic scale there are a few constants. There is no Bsharp or Cflat. No Esharp or Fflat. (this refers to the black keys)

Now according to some scientific stuff and physics all notes have a hertz. That being said, a Bflat is a different hz than an Asharp which are essentially the same notes on the keyboard.  (Im not talking about equal-tempered scales here, the other ones)

"Actually the F note flat is an E"

This begins to describe the physical and tonal half step relationships including those where there is no black key between the white key. I didnt include all the possibilities but I thought it would clue him in and hed figure it out.

So instead of worrying about what I type and the context in which it is typed, how bout you simply offer your own opinion without correcting others. Oh, and any questions could be posed in a PM and if I am wrong I could post a correction on my own. Stop being the forum cop. its retarded!