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Unusual Music Notation?
Pretty sure it's nothing for violins!
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ELCBK
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Anyone know what these numbers,
above the staff, mean? 

 

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think its a cheat maybe..  numbers represent tone above...ummm. C... A GUESS.  

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Hmmm...never seen that before. 

The key of D major must be relevant to it, though, because of the numbering that we can see. 

It skips numbers between E (20) & F(22), & between B(16) & C(18), so I'm guessing the F & C we see are both sharp (so that F natural=21 & C natural=17).  Also, counting downward in the same pattern comes to 1 = D. 

(Bolded notes we see):

G         – 23

F ♯       – 22

(F– 21)

E          – 20

D         – 19

C ♯       – 18

(C-17)

B         – 16

A         – 15

G         – 14

F ♯       – 13

(F – 12)

E          – 11

D         – 10

C ♯       – 9

 (C - 8)

B          – 7

A          – 6

G         – 5

F ♯       – 4

(F – 3)

E          – 2

D         – 1

Okay, that's all I got--no closer to the answer, I guess. smile

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ok emily...what is it? !!  🤪

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I wonder if it's for a specific instrument.. maybe strings on a harp or zither type instrument? That might explain the missing half steps.

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the H's and J's.  related to pedals or something on pipe organ? 

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THANK YOU ALL!

I STILL don't know what this is for, but was guessing it might have to do with pipe organs or something I'm not familiar with. 

So, duh, I went to music symbols at Wikipedia. 

Closest I can find is "Prime" and "Harmonic series" notation! 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.....es_(music)

From Wikipedia, this image is based on Extended Just Intonation, by Ben Johnston.

Supposedly, natural Horns use the Harmonic Series notes - not seeing numbers in notation, though. 

Checked Pipe Organ, Zithers & Harpsichord, Medieval, Hand Bells, Tubular Bells, Vibraphone, etc... NOPE.

My hair started to stand up on the back of my neck - felt like this was almost leading me to Bernstein's, "The Greatest 5 minutes in Music Education". 🙄 (lol) 

BUT THESE NUMBERS/NOTES AREN'T THE SAME AS IN THE OP PHOTO!
Why notate them? 

...and how is the notation useful?   I still have no idea.

Almost thought this might be a topic for a "Music Theory" thread! 🤣  

All the "Numbered" musical notation I've found, so far (done looking), does NOT use any numbers in the double digits.
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January 31, 2022 - 1:38 pm
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My best guess is that the numbers are specific for a particular instrument and method to play designed by someone to make it easier to learn.

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