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http://absolutelygospel.com/in.....ie-lister/
Read at least through second paragraph.
When you come to a fork in the road, take it.
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That was quite an amazing story. Very inspiring.
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maybe the facts about string length and tension and their relitivity to tones had an influence on his learning.
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Those observations may have helped with a violin but he goes on to also be a composer. The question is just how much "musicalness" can be learned compared to natural ability?
Some people may be slower but does that mean that many people could theoretically be great violinists if they lived long enough? 
I think that any average person can learn to play the violin, musically gifted or not.
When you come to a fork in the road, take it.
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Oliver, I got an error on the link. I was disappointed; I really wanted to read it.
I'm so glad you believe that people can learn even if they have no musical gifts. That's me!
The most beautiful things in life cannot be touched or seen. They must be felt with the heart. ~Helen Keller~
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I also got an error. Maybe the page was taken down, moved or expired.
When the work's all done and the sun's settin' low,
I pull out my fiddle and I rosin up the bow.
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I think that everyone is born with a certain amount of talent. Some lots, and some maybe just a bit. But talent alone isn't enough to do anything with. The person needs to put in the work to get the skills.
I think of talent as working as a sort of a multiplier. However much of it you have will make it easier to develop skills through work like practice and listening and studying. If you have less then someone you are comparing yourself to, then you may need to work harder, it might take longer, but you can still get there.
Somebody can also have a lot of talent, but never do anything to develop it or use it, and that is tragic when you see that.
@coolpinkone: I have heard some of your playing. I strongly disagree as to your statement of having no musical gifts. You play well. Just not as well as you want it to be yet. But you keep going and you'll get there.
"This young wine may have a lot of tannins now, but in 5 or 10 years it is going to be spectacular, despite the fact that right now it tastes like crude oil. You know this is how it is supposed to taste at this stage of development." ~ Itzhak Perlman
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DanielB said
I think that everyone is born with a certain amount of talent. Some lots, and some maybe just a bit. But talent alone isn't enough to do anything with. The person needs to put in the work to get the skills.I think of talent as working as a sort of a multiplier. However much of it you have will make it easier to develop skills through work like practice and listening and studying. If you have less then someone you are comparing yourself to, then you may need to work harder, it might take longer, but you can still get there.
Somebody can also have a lot of talent, but never do anything to develop it or use it, and that is tragic when you see that.
@coolpinkone: I have heard some of your playing. I strongly disagree as to your statement of having no musical gifts. You play well. Just not as well as you want it to be yet. But you keep going and you'll get there.
very well and accurately stated.
"I find your lack of Fiddle, disturbing" - Darth Vader
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Wouldn't open for me either.
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Yeps! The link is broken.
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I second Daniel B statement, well put!
In what I have observed in my many years and personal experiences it just seems to me that people are born with an innate desire to try to be what they feel inside, at first hard to understand it and start out knowing absolutely nothing about the things that are inside tugging at them . And when that desire becomes a burning passion that's when they began to seek out the path they were meant to take. Learning is more of joy than a pain. Of course, life happens. Many of these folks are thrown off course by lots of things, making a living, sickness, self-doubt, etc. This reminds me of the parable of the mustard, Jesus talked about. It seems that all the DNA is contained in this tiny seed to be a giant tree, where birds fly in and out nesting and producing more seed for generations to come. However, if the seed is only dropped to the surface of the ground, and it's never nourished by water and nutrients it can never be what it was intended to be. As musicians, or any other calling for that matter, I believe it is our responsibility to appreciate the seed within us even to the point that we seek knowledge to do all we can to become all God has intended us to be.
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