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Classical Duets for violin 'beginners'
25 classical duets for violin, Luigi Rago
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bocaholly
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Saw this posted elsewhere and was interested for myself so I wanted to share it. 

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1. Gavotta J. S. Bach
2. Il contadino allegro R. Schumann (The happy farmer)
3. Pastorale J. S. Bach
4. Minuetto J. H. D’Anglebert
5. Marcia J. S. Bach (MARCH)
6. Minuetto W. A. Mozart
7. Tema con variazioni (Quartetto Op. 76 n. 3) F. J. Haydn
8. Melodia (dal Lohengrin) R. Wagner
9. Gavotta variata G. F. Handel
10. Minuetto J. S. Bach
11. Antica melodia popolare francese (Op. 39 n.16) P. I. Tchaikowsky
12. Inno alla gioia (Coro IX Sinfonia) L. V. Beethoven
13. Minuetto in sol L. V. Beethoven
14. Allegretto (Sechs Kinderstucke Op. 72) F. Mendelssohn B.
15. Aria di Zerlina “Vedrai carino” (Don Giovanni) W. A. Mozart
16. (second part) La perla E. Grieg- ( tecnica avanzata della I posizione)
17. Ninna nanna F. Schubert
18. Studio Op 44 n.9 F. David
19. Romanza Op. 38 n. 2 F. Mendelssohn B.
20. Canone Op. 68 R. Schumann
21. Bourrée J. S. Bach
22. Duetto di Zerlina e Don Giovanni (dal Don Giovanni) W. A. Mozart, là ci darem la mano
23. Concertato (Fidelio Atto 1 n. 3) L. V. Beethoven
24. Rondò Op. 38 N. 1 J. F. Mazas
25. Duetto Op. 70 n.1 J. F. Mazas

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bocaholly said
Saw this posted elsewhere and was interested for myself so I wanted to share it. 

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Did you get it? Do you like it? Do you have someone to play with?

"The richest person is not the one who has the most,
but the one who needs the least."

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bocaholly,

This looks like a really good list.  I went out on internet to try to find this book—found it on Amazon in Italy (but they won’t ship to US). Did you find it for sale in the US?

Are you looking for beginner duets?  I play a lot of duets with my teacher.  A couple that come to mind that I played that I think are really good:

Pleyel Op. 8 - Six Little Duets for Two Violins: These (specifically Duets 1&2) were the first pieces I worked on with my teacher when I started lessons with her (I had been learning on my own for two years prior to that).  Here’s a video of a girl & her teacher playing them.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?.....8Wz8oLjmBg

 

Also, the Samuel Applebaum books: Beautiful Music for Two String Instruments, Two Violins (volumes 1& 2 of 4 are 1st position only):  These are really nice short pieces (taken from the classics) that progress in difficulty.

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Hi SharonC, a friend ordered the book for the two of us. I believe this is the link he used

I found the Pleyel you mentioned. One of the sources shows a screenshot of "Duo 1". Funny, it looks like the second violin part is the slightly more challenging of the two. When I first joined a community orchestra and did a lot of bitching about the unmelodious 2nd violin parts, my old Russian teacher said, "that's why 2nd violins get paid more". Probably urban myth but it made me smile.

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Speaking of Violin duets, I have been playing Mazas's 12 Little Duets Op 38 along with videos posted by a high school teacher Patrick Murphy. I don't have a violin playing partner, so I have to make do. Still fun though.

The music is public domain at https://imslp.org/wiki/18_Viol.....r%C3%A9ol)

I've created a Youtube playlist (some out of order) of Mr. Murphy playing the 1st and second parts of each of the duets. 

May not be complete beginner stuff, but they start off pretty accessible, then move into material I find a BIT more challenging 🙂

Bob in Lone Oak, Texas

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Nice one @bob - thanks for sharing that!   Not my "go to" pieces but always educational and interesting to experiment with, cool!  TY !

Oh - and of course TY to you too @bocaholly for the initial info in the thread - first time I saw it, today, almost a month on !!! TY !

As I say, not my go-to playing genre BUT one can learn so much from from taking the time out to investigate, work-with, and get to terms with these things and the techniques they use, nice....

I seriously recommend not copying my mistakes. D'oh - guntohead.JPG

Please make your own, different mistakes, and help us all learn :-)

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Bocaholly,

Thanks for the book link—I don't know why when I initially searched, I got the "does not ship to US."  Your link was no problem.  Seems like a nice collection in one book. 

Yes, the 2nd violin part in the Pleyel duets is more challenging.  I think a lot of the violin duets have the parts “equal” (or even with the 2nd part more challenging).    

Bob,

I like Patrick Murphy’s videos—he did some for the Pleyel duets, too, that I used when I was learning them.  Very helpful.

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Thanks for chiming in @SharonC, Bob and Billy,

Billy, nothing wrong with switching genres 🙂 Seriously, I actually love working on fiddle tunes and (pre-pandemic) attended an occasional OT music jam or festival. So you may enjoy your classical pieces without apologizing too!

Bob, thanks for that Patrick Murphy link and the Mazas suggestion. I first found Murphy when looking for some guidance to play the 2nd violin (always frustratingly unmelodic at some point) of Vivaldi's Spring. Unfortunately there seem to be a bunch of amateur and school level adaptations and the one my community orchestra was using was different than Murphy's. I wonder it that's the case with professional orchestra scores too?

SharonC... glad the new link worked. Don't get me wrong on the Pleyel being too easy. I'd way rather play something within my skill set and work on figuring out how to make it sound like music than cram in as many notes as possible on a piece way beyond my ability. (Off topic but the Bach Double is an exception... can't get past 70% normal speed without crashing and burning, sigh.)

Nothing like a friendly, neighborhood digression, oops.

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bocaholly said
 

Bob, thanks for that Patrick Murphy link and the Mazas suggestion. I first found Murphy when looking for some guidance to play the 2nd violin (always frustratingly unmelodic at some point) of Vivaldi's Spring. Unfortunately there seem to be a bunch of amateur and school level adaptations and the one my community orchestra was using was different than Murphy's. I wonder it that's the case with professional orchestra scores too?

  

 

Generally no. There may be different editions, but the differences are usually limited to bowings, articulations, and sometimes rehearsal letters/numbers inserted in different places or repeats written out. The notes are unlikely to differ except in unusual cases where the composer's intent is uncertain (for example, if there are multiple revisions, or if no original manuscript survives). Because bowings and articulations tend to be decided by the concertmaster or section leader anyway, with most pieces it makes no difference if someone in the orchestra is playing off a part from a different edition. It's common for orchestral musicians to save old parts to reuse whenever they play the piece again. 

School orchestra arrangements differ much more because, well, they're arrangements.

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