Welcome to our forum. A Message To Our New and Prospective Members . Check out our Forum Rules. Lets keep this forum an enjoyable place to visit.

Currently working on errors from the latest (SimplePress) forum update. Many issues have been resoled and others are being worked on. Thank you for your patience.

AAA
Avatar
Please consider registering
guest
sp_LogInOut Log Insp_Registration Register
Register | Lost password?
Advanced Search
Forum Scope




Match



Forum Options



Minimum search word length is 3 characters - maximum search word length is 84 characters
sp_Feed Topic RSSsp_TopicIcon
Kreisler
Topic Rating: 0 Topic Rating: 0 Topic Rating: 0 Topic Rating: 0 Topic Rating: 0 Topic Rating: 0 (0 votes) 
Avatar
Gordon Shumway
London, England
Members

Regulars
July 30, 2020 - 9:06 am
Member Since: August 1, 2016
Forum Posts: 2930
sp_UserOnlineSmall Online

What do you think of these old Viennese dances?

  • Timeless beauty - what was good enough for my great grandmother is good enough for me!(100% : 2 votes)
  • Hideous, old-fashioned treacly tripe - Death Metal was invented to replace this nonsense!(0% : 0 votes)
Total Voters: 2
I don't know how old-fashioned these pieces are now considered to be. I suspect they are either loved or hated by most people. I got the Liebesleid from a charity shop, and I decided to get the rest off IMSLP. (see attachments).

I'm reading Yehudi Menuhin's autobiog., and he rather astutely, to paraphrase him severely, says that Heifetz was tangible, but Kreisler was intangible.

Little German lesson for you (because the two words are so often confused):

Lied (rhymes with feet) is a song. Plural Lieder, rhymes with feeder.

Leid (rhymes with fight) means suffering, and the piece is called Liebesleid, love's suffering, not Liebeslied, lovesong. (I'm not sure Leid has a plural. In the case of Goethe's Die Leiden des Jungen Werthers, Leiden is the plural of Leiden, slightly different).

Freud is an abbreviation of Freude, which means joy. (hence Ode an die Freude)

Schön Rosmarin means "beautiful rosemary". I guess Kreisler liked roast lamb.

No, they are not for beginners, but I thought I'd collect them together so I had the set.

Andrew

Verified human - the ignominy!

Avatar
Fiddlerman
Fort Lauderdale
July 30, 2020 - 10:02 am
Member Since: September 26, 2010
Forum Posts: 16613

This stuff will live on forever!

"The richest person is not the one who has the most,
but the one who needs the least."

Avatar
ELCBK
USA
Members

Regulars
July 31, 2020 - 1:39 am
Member Since: June 10, 2020
Forum Posts: 9198
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

Gordon Shumway -thanx_gif Great you brought this up.  I enjoyed hearing how different Kreisler sounded playing "Liebesleid" in 1930, then again in 1942.  Quite the emotional rollercoaster.

 

Rolling Eyes Emotion Emoticons- Emily
Avatar
Fiddlerman
Fort Lauderdale
August 12, 2020 - 1:30 pm
Member Since: September 26, 2010
Forum Posts: 16613

Yes very interesting. Also interesting how much recording equipment improved in that time.

"The richest person is not the one who has the most,
but the one who needs the least."

Avatar
Bob
Members

Regulars
August 12, 2020 - 2:19 pm
Member Since: July 13, 2017
Forum Posts: 355
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

I've really liked Kreisler's compositions/arrangements for a long time 🙂

Here are the ones on my stand now. The notes are not too difficult, but I'll be darned if I can make them sound like the ones I hear on Youtube  ;(

 

Danse Orientale (from Scheherazade)
https://ks.imslp.net/files/img.....violin.pdf

Chanson Arabe (from Scheherazade)
http://ks4.imslp.net/files/img.....violin.pdf

Polichinelle
http://ks4.imslp.net/files/img.....violin.pdf

La Precieuse
https://ks.imslp.net/files/img.....violin.pdf

Bob in Lone Oak, Texas

Avatar
Fiddlerman
Fort Lauderdale
August 12, 2020 - 3:13 pm
Member Since: September 26, 2010
Forum Posts: 16613

I have always loved Kreisler. 🙂

"The richest person is not the one who has the most,
but the one who needs the least."

Forum Timezone: America/New_York
Most Users Ever Online: 1287
Currently Online: Gordon Shumway, Mouse
Guest(s) 106
Currently Browsing this Page:
1 Guest(s)
Members Birthdays
sp_BirthdayIcon
Today tesfalcon, Skittles, Jonand
Upcoming Killerkhezu, Preanix, EJ-Kisz, laserbrainz, Writer, chendricks, BillyG, rsmith6322, DeeLight41, EricBluegrassFiddle, Zippo, Dan, jacarino, K@1t1yn
Top Posters:
ELCBK: 9198
ABitRusty: 4417
Gordon Shumway: 2930
Mad_Wed: 2849
Barry: 2690
Fiddlestix: 2647
stringy: 2501
Oliver: 2439
DanielB: 2379
Mark: 2293
Member Stats:
Guest Posters: 3
Members: 31790
Moderators: 0
Admins: 8
Forum Stats:
Groups: 16
Forums: 84
Topics: 10941
Posts: 139334
Newest Members:
Dr_Sandra_Lee S, jamescorrey67, dex469, fufvhe, broohkale S, Dr_avashamban S, lovewithdonut S, kunoichi, Reingston S, qqqqq SP
Administrators: Fiddlerman: 16613, KindaScratchy: 1760, coolpinkone: 4180, BillyG: 3747, JoakimSimplePress: 0, MrsFiddlerman: 2, Jimmie Bjorling: 0, Mouse: 6372