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Simplified Schubert
Advice sought on key signatures / accidentals
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Peter
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I've arranged a Schubert piece for the needs of a six-month / one-year violin beginner (if a job's worth doing, do it yourself?), and I'd appreciate some advice on how to handle a ten-bar section which moves the key sig temporarily.

Do I leave it in Cmaj and give the accidentals (see attached PDF, bars 29 - 38), or do I change it to Amaj for the middle ten? I'm thinking of the needs of the 95-percentile learner and I fear I may be an outlier (one way or the other).

Please excuse the WIP condition of the piece; dynamics and artics will be added as the arrngement hardens. For the avoidance of doubt, most of my work is in bars 29 - 54.

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You seem to have chosen a solution already, so you can leave it as it is - you probably won't be interested in it in three weeks' time anyway. Alternatively, see if it's in IMSLP and, if it is, check how Schubert wrote it.

He used accidentals:

http://ks4.imslp.info/files/im....._D.969.pdf

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Use the accidentals. Someone who's new to reading music may not have been introduced to the idea of changing keys.

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AndrewH said
Use the accidentals. Someone who's new to reading music may not have been introduced to the idea of changing keys.  

I assumed Peter was talking about himself.

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Gordon Shumway said
... you probably won't be interested in it in three weeks' time anyway...

  

Heh! Guilty.

I became captivated by this piece after hearing it in a Spotify Schubert playlist; a recording of a violin / guitar duet. Unfortunately for me, the violin shifts out of my range of confidence in that arrangement, and so I decided to simplify it to bring it into my neophyte compass. Here's a YT video of the duet:

Schubert Op.77 / 3 - part of "Schubert for Two"

Thank you both for your advice; I'll just keep the accidentals and start playing it through to find the best articulations and so forth.

Peter

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