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Ashokan Farewell - Gavotte by Lully
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I rushed this video, I was playing a lot better about an hour later but I was too lazy to re-shoot the thing...  bunny-headbang

https://vimeo.com/78496228

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November 3, 2013 - 11:06 pm

Looks pretty good.  Sounded good to me.  One question:  What kind of camera are you using? 

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Thanks.

It's a Sony EX-1.  I don't own it, my work does.

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That was great, @LyleA. You played it well. The Gavotte by Lully is so nice, wish I can play it some day.

Well done.

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LyleA said
Thanks.

It's a Sony EX-1.  I don't own it, my work does.

So I just price checked it on amazon.  I understand why you don't own one.  What did you use to shoot your film?  I'm sorry, not trying to pry, I like nice cameras.
 

Also, you did an awesome job with the dynamics on that first piece especially.  You used a lot of the far end of your bow though.  I'm wondering if that was on purpose, or if you just naturally tend to stay away from the frog...

 

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wookieman said

LyleA said
Thanks.

It's a Sony EX-1.  I don't own it, my work does.

So I just price checked it on amazon.  I understand why you don't own one.  What did you use to shoot your film?  I'm sorry, not trying to pry, I like nice cameras.
 

Also, you did an awesome job with the dynamics on that first piece especially.  You used a lot of the far end of your bow though.  I'm wondering if that was on purpose, or if you just naturally tend to stay away from the frog...

 

Thanks for the compliment.

As to the bowing question, I find myself playing up there naturally because when I move towards the frog, my bow gets bouncy as the top end gains more leverage.  It's something I am working on, but it's a slow change, especially if I am not in front of a mirror practicing.

As to the question about my film, we ended up with four different cameras actually.  This was due mostly to scheduling (we shot over a period of five months) and location considerations (i.e. small camera for maneuvering around Chicago/big camera in more controlled environments).  

At the end of the day it worked out like this:

Canon C300 - 85% of the film

Arri Alexa - 8%

Canon 5D Mk II - 6%

Canon 7D - 1%

They were all rentals of borrowed (Alexa came from my office.) 

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That is some nice playing.  Your intonation sounded generally very good.  I didn't notice that any of the long notes were off pitch.  Certainly you have a good ear. Not familiar with the gavotte, but did I hear an off-note at 1:47?

I think your bowing is better since one of your videos of some few months ago.  I also was going to suggest you try using more of the bow.

If you are getting bounce when bowing near the frog, consider that usually the pinky is used to conterbalance the length of bow hanging past the strings when you are near the frog.  The pinky can leave the stick when bowing near the tip, and it's even sort of natural for that to happen, but, I think, bowing near the frog, the pinky should be pressing down on the stick to hold up what's hanging on the other side of the strings.  So maybe try to think of a point in an upbow where the pinky begins to touch the stick and begins to press downward, and a point in a downbow where the pinky leaves the stick.  Not that it has to ever leave the stick---it can be of use in steering the stick too, not just in balancing it.

Or so it seems to me.  You might want to talk it over with your teacher, and I hope some experts here will comment on it.

Your playing sounds really good.

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ratvn said
That was great, @LyleA. You played it well. The Gavotte by Lully is so nice, wish I can play it some day.

Well done.

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Thanks, ratvn!

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That is some nice playing.  Your intonation sounded generally very good.  I didn't notice that any of the long notes were off pitch.  Certainly you have a good ear. Not familiar with the gavotte, but did I hear an off-note at 1:47?

I think your bowing is better since one of your videos of some few months ago.  I also was going to suggest you try using more of the bow.

If you are getting bounce when bowing near the frog, consider that usually the pinky is used to conterbalance the length of bow hanging past the strings when you are near the frog.  The pinky can leave the stick when bowing near the tip, and it's even sort of natural for that to happen, but, I think, bowing near the frog, the pinky should be pressing down on the stick to hold up what's hanging on the other side of the strings.  So maybe try to think of a point in an upbow where the pinky begins to touch the stick and begins to press downward, and a point in a downbow where the pinky leaves the stick.  Not that it has to ever leave the stick---it can be of use in steering the stick too, not just in balancing it.

Or so it seems to me.  You might want to talk it over with your teacher, and I hope some experts here will comment on it.

Your playing sounds really good.

Thank you, RosinedUp.  The note at 1:47 was supposed to be an open G.  The string sounds a little flat to me, plus I played it out of harmony with the piece so it sounds awkward to me.  

Jump ahead to 1:57 and I do play a horrendously bad note.  Supposed to be an A with the fourth finger on the D.  Sounds more like a D# because I didn't stretch far enough.  Sigh...

 

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Very Nice LyleA.  I  think you should be  pleased. I enjoyed the even tones, bowing and that nothing seemed rushed.  Right on, nice playing, nice filming.

 

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Nicely played and the video production was very good.

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Very Nice LyleA.  I  think you should be  pleased. I enjoyed the even tones, bowing and that nothing seemed rushed.  Right on, nice playing, nice filming.

 

Toni

Thank you, Toni!

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Nicely played and the video production was very good.

I appreciate it, SroneDog

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SToneDog, rather...

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Beautiful. This song sounds like something I may have heard in the movies, Gettysburg or Gods and Generals. I mean the first one.

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Beautiful. This song sounds like something I may have heard in the movies, Gettysburg or Gods and Generals. I mean the first one.

Not surprising.  It was used by Ken Burns in his epic Civil War documentary.  That's where I first heard it.  Written by Jay Ungar.  Here's a link to him playing it, which he is much better at then myself.

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Yes I love, love, love Jay Ungar.  I play this and Lover's Waltz and they are two of my favorites. You play it beautifully.  

 

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Yes I love, love, love Jay Ungar.  I play this and Lover's Waltz and they are two of my favorites. You play it beautifully.  

Thanks, 1stimestar.  I love Jay as well.  The Blue River Waltz is a favorite of mine.

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Oh I'll have to go look that one up. 

 

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LyleA said

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Yes I love, love, love Jay Ungar.  I play this and Lover's Waltz and they are two of my favorites. You play it beautifully.  

Thanks, 1stimestar.  I love Jay as well.  The Blue River Waltz is a favorite of mine.

 

Oh my gosh that is just so delicious to my heart (add other cheesy meanderings here).  Wow.  I would immediately add it to my list of things I want to learn but I know at this point, I couldn't do it justice.  I'll just keep it in mind though.  Maybe next year.  Dang, I really want to learn vibrato!

 

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I asked yesterday if this was in Gettysburg or Gods and Generals. I did some research on it, and it seems that it may have been written in 1988.

I think this is a very beautiful piece of music; one of my favorites that have been posted. I need to learn it by memory.

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