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Fiddle Log Week 42
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SecondFiddle
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January 7, 2015 - 4:00 pm
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Hey!  Here's another video for critique  it's got Angelina Baker, Old Joe Clark, Rose of Sharon Waltz, and Frog's Theme from the game Chrono Trigger.  It also features me attempting to use a metronome while playing.

 

 

If you want to skip my rambling at the beginning, the playing starts at around the 5:45 mark.

Please give any advice y'all might have.   I really appreciate all y'all have given me so far!

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Schaick
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January 8, 2015 - 9:26 am
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Much smoother!!  Nice job!!

Violinist start date -  May 2013  

Fiddler start date - May 2014

FIDDLE- Gift from a dear friend. A 1930-40 german copy, of a french copy of a Stradivarius.  BOW - $50 carbon fiber. Strings - Dominants with E Pirastro Gold string.

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January 10, 2015 - 1:19 am
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Couple of things on Angeline:

1. Intonation - It's a lot better than some of the first videos I watched. Do you ever practice scales? Sometimes it'll help you get your intonation dialed in if you run a scale before you play the tune. Just run the scale of the key you are about to play.

2. Timing - Again your improvement is awesome, you've come a long way. Playing with the metronome is awesome. You still need to work on keeping that steady beat

3. Downbeats - Now this is a stylistic thing, but try and get your bow to do a down stroke on the 1st beat this will provide a pulse to the music (which is so important). It won't work out every time, but this song has some definete places that it sounds good. Here's a silly example of it:

4. Slurs - You'll need to work on your slurs to get your bow to do a down bow on the beat. Saw strokes (individual bow strokes) just gets old to the ear. You can do all sorts of amazing things with bowings. In this music bowing is what really makes the music. Not the notes. It can provide on rhythm or syncopated ryhtyms

One thing, not a biggie since you are still playing in time with the mentronome, is that you are halfing the tempo. So you say 120, but you are more like playing 60. Here's a little vid of playing at 120bpm:

Only reason to bring this is up is just being able to communicate with other fiddlers. For example if you are at a jam and you say, "Oh I play it at 120bpm" You might get surprised when they play it twice as fast as you thought.

 

Anyway doing a great job, just some thoughts.

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SecondFiddle
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January 11, 2015 - 2:04 pm
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@Schaick Thanks!

 

@fiddlinsteudel I do practice scales sometimes, not as much as I used to, but I do when Im warming up sometimes.  I'm learning the E flat Major scale right now so I am practicing that one a lot.  The band at my church plays Be Thou My Vision in that key and they eventually want me to play with them.  EfM is hard, makes me use my 4th finger which I'm not used to, but hey, thats good practice for that!

I should have been working more with a metronome this whole time X_X, again its not something I like to do so I conveniently 'forget' most of the time lol.  But I'm seeing more and more that I should and in addition I'm also trying to play along with music on youtube.

You're right about the downbeats, at one point my teacher encouraged me to do that  and it did make my playing sound a lot better, but as I realized the need to work on intonation that fell by the wayside a lot.  Thank's for the reminder!

I thought I was doing it too slow for the pacing actually...  Thing is I learned Angelina Baker on sheet music that was 4/4 with almost all quarter notes and as I've progressed I started playing it differently with more 1/8 notes I guess.  When I started playing with the metronome in the video the sheet music came back in my mind and yeah...   thats why there were time I started to speed up and then slow back down with caused hiccups..

Thanks for all of the critique!  Now that I'm getting better at my intonation and basic bowing I'll start incorporating the downbow stuff more.  Also, thanks for the video illustrations, they were a big help!

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January 15, 2015 - 11:09 am
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Awesome tips from fiddlinsteudel.
Your posting and asking for advice is what will help you progress faster and I've already noticed a lot of improvements. Keep up the good work!!!

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