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Freq
April 9, 2013 - 4:42 pm
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Ok. Here is a new video. I worked on the arm vibrato for a while now, and I think it is good for me to get some pointers that can lead me in the right direction. 

I still have much work to do. The bow is living its own life when i practice the vibrato and i must learn to relax. I really appreciate all the help I can get! 

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....e=youtu.be

Practice don't make perfect, practice makes permanent.

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ratvn
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April 9, 2013 - 7:36 pm
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Hi Frequenzy,

You're doing well as this is not easy. While I'm also a beginner like you are and did not practice arm vibrato (my vibrato is still work in progress), but I would like to suggest what I noticed per FM, Pierrce's vibrato tutorials.

If you could get your fingers straighter, more perpendicular to the fingerboard it would be easier, and the focus should be at your finger tips as you relax your muscles.

Keep up the good work.

Robert

 

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Picklefish
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April 9, 2013 - 8:17 pm
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I think you and I are at the same point in vibrato so it will be interesting to see how you progress.

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Fiddlerman
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April 9, 2013 - 10:01 pm
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Congratulations Frequenzy. You have the right movement for sure.
What you need to do as well is practice keeping all four fingers down while vibrating and not lifting the other fingers too high when doing just one finger at a time. Keeping all fingers down at the same time is good practice for checking that you have the right amount of pressure on while vibrating.
Also trains you to keep your fingers lower :-)
I think what ratvn is referring to is to play more on the tip of your finger rather than using so much flat. I'm not sure anymore which is easier but if you play on your tip you have more room to go back with.

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April 9, 2013 - 10:26 pm
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Dude ~~~~>> your in the freaking shower > That so totally ROCKS!! > now your a player that wants to learn. This vid ROCKs > I am trying to get this also> it is the SWEETness of the instrument. The comments that Master Fiddlerman left on this post are really gonna help me. SWEET!!! >>> your in the FREAKING shower doing a vid > asking for help on technique. >> THAT ROCKS!!!!!!!!!!!! > hope you didn't wake the kids.

Frequenzy ROCKS!!!!!!!

 

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ratvn
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April 10, 2013 - 3:28 am
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@Freq: congrats to you that the Master FM said about you having the right movement, and playing on the finger tip may be harder for your arm vibrato as he knows the proper form to develop each of the vibrato techniques. So the best is to follow his advise. I got his tip about not to lift my fingers too high and I'm working on it hard. It definitely helps improving fingering.

Keep practicing. You will get it.

smile

 

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Freq
April 10, 2013 - 7:09 am
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@ratvn: Thank you for replying! I will try to raise the fingers more. I know that it will give me a bigger specter to use, and that's what I want. I don't know how to get the muscles relaxed yet. But I will practice as much as I can. Vibrato is almost the only thing I practice now:) 

 

@Picklefish I follow your videos and progress too. I hope that my mistakes can contribute in some way:)

 

@Fiddlerman :  I will work on those fingers. It is good to know that I am on the right track. It helps me very much to get some pointers like you gave me now. I did not think about that the other fingers was so high up before you told me. 

The right amount of pressure is not easy to get. When i press too lightly, the tip of the finger slips, and when i press harder  it becomes like in the video. But I understand that it probably have something to do with more practice:)

 

I will also try to play more at the tip of the fingers. I learned myself to play with the fingers flat, so it has become a bad habit for me. Thank you so much for taking the time to reply:)

 

@StoneDog 

lol! The shower! I have to keep it exiting enough for the people out there, and the shower contributes to that :D I totally agree with you. It is the vibrato that gives the music soul. Fiddlerman is great! No doubt about it. His reply really helped me too.  Well, it is you that ROCK! A post has never made my day like this one did! Thank you for that, and thank you for replying :D  

The kids slept all through the night. I guess they are getting used to their noisy father:)

Practice don't make perfect, practice makes permanent.

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Fiddlerman
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September 8, 2019 - 2:18 pm
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I forgot to give you a badge. 😁

You see it now.

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starise
September 11, 2019 - 7:44 am
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Is that last post spam? Not sure? The link didn't really show me anything?

On vibrato, Fiddlerman do you think wrist vibrato is ok also? I'm able to get vibrato. One of my teachers told me  "finger" vibrato is not good. I seem to be using more of my wrist and my oscillations are not always even or in sync with the tune which can be very frustrating.

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Gordon Shumway
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September 11, 2019 - 8:25 am
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starise said
Is that last post spam? Not sure? The link didn't really show me anything?  

Yes, I think it's part of a drive to advertise an essay-writing site. That's the third different new username to attempt the same thing in as many weeks.

@Fiddlerman 

Andrew

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BillyG
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September 11, 2019 - 8:45 am
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Yes it was, and it's gawnnnnnnnn exactly

I seriously recommend not copying my mistakes. D'oh - guntohead.JPG

Please make your own, different mistakes, and help us all learn :-)

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September 11, 2019 - 8:57 am
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Thank you BillyG. Something told me not to click that link. I did anyway. Maybe I had better check my credt cards.

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Gordon Shumway
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September 11, 2019 - 9:03 am
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BillyG said
Yes it was, and it's gawnnnnnnnn exactly

  

I don't suppose the three offenders had the same IP address, did they, Billy?

Andrew

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September 17, 2019 - 7:03 am
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Do not click the link in the above post from remosijep, Sept 17, 2019. He is a scammer spammer. All of the posts about essays in any thread are spams. He or she has been here many times with different screen names. Best to avoid all posts about critiquing essays, editing, etc. So far, all have been spams. Just an a tip.

Fiddlerman, feel free to delete this post when you delete the scammer spammer’s post. Just wanted to warn about the link.

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BillyG
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September 17, 2019 - 8:21 am
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@Mouse - Thank you !

It's gone...

I seriously recommend not copying my mistakes. D'oh - guntohead.JPG

Please make your own, different mistakes, and help us all learn :-)

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Fiddlerman
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September 17, 2019 - 9:36 am
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BillyG said
@Mouse - Thank you !

It's gone...

Thanks for keeping an eye out for me guys.

I appreciate knowing as quickly as possible. If any of your see anything suspect, please don't hesitate to inform me.

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