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@ELCBK said

1st of all, I enjoyed the jam videos - appreciate you shared them! 

This last "Gallegher's Frolics" - your playing was really wonderful to listen to!  I've thoroughly enjoyed seeing/hearing you progress & become more confident in your playing over these last few years! 

You have definitely gotten the hang of Unreal Engine!!!  Think you fit the tune really well & I can tell you've put a lot of work into the video.  I'm impressed by how professional it looks & sounds! 🤗

Too kind and thank you for always giving it a peek! 😀

Its not that difficult of a tune at that tempo.  Ill have to spend a long time there..which is fine. 

The scenery isnt to big a deal.  if it werent for the 3d type assets like the house and trees being available premade..I wouldnt even be able to even begin  

Things like the glow and sun rays are resolve effects added in later when i put the music to it.

Its all just another thing to play around with.  Having fun with it.

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I just listened and watched you newest video. @ABitRusty, I am enjoying these so much! I know, I keep saying this, but I love it! I was going to tackle my cello today, I am tryng to get used to that bridge so that maybe I won't have the expense of taking it in for. new setup, but, I am going to get out that fiddle book I received for Christmas and work on one of the pieces that I did a sight read of and flagge, instead. 

I think I asked this before, but scrolling back to find it will be soooo tedious, do any of your kids p, if you have any, play fiddle with you, or anything else with you? 

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@mouse my oldest strums guitar and sings...for himself.  youngest son messes with electric bass.  weve jammed once or twice just horsing around.  Me and the oldest have similar taste in Americana and that type stuff but as Irish music goes.  he is more into the pub type songs im strictly into the session type tunes.  

Worked on this one some tonight.   need to practice some more stuff and move on.  Pretty nice little jig.  a good pinky workout on fiddle.  

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ABitRusty

Enjoyed both of your videos and playing.

Thanks for posting. 

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I, once again, love it. This music always puts a smile on the face. So folksy, early American sounding. It is like you are on a covered wagon road trip! Did they have "road trips" back then? Well, if not, they should have! 

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I love both of your Gallahers and Christy Barry’s 2.  Very soothing, and a pleasure to listen to (and watch).

You’re really evolving a very distinct and recognizable style of your own.  That’s pretty cool.

Again, thanks for sharing.  

I keep checking in on the forum just for these!

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thanks mark mouse and unfretted !

@mouse practicing slower helps me.. I know theres another view that says to learn them fast.  Ive tried and not had much success..if any that way.   i probably didnt give myself time that way though.

 

so for fun i took my recording and sped it up to try and match the video im using to practice to.   What i normally do is find a video or recording i like and then slow it down to a speed thats comfortable...   I think once its up to speed thats when it gets alot more of what is expected as far as irish jig sound. 

Whats cool with alot of these..if not most..of the irish type melodies is slowed down you. an do alot with them.  I mean why try and kill yourself playing break neck speed when you can enjoy the tune slow.  either way ...it just depends on what ones goal is i think.   theres 1000's of these melodies out there to experiment with at any speed!

 

My playing sped up 1.5x.. 

 

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@ABitRusty -

I really enjoyed your playing of Christy Barry's 2! 

Loved the speed comparison - I've done that!  I think it's good feedback - helped me believe I was on the right track. 

The tunes I've sped up (from my comfort zone) are still a challenge.  How fast I can articulate the notes clearly is such a limiting factor... then there's how fast can I think - sometimes that's what kills me.  Maybe after 10 years of playing I won't have to think at all (it'd be nice). (lol) 

The challenge of trying to play faster can be good for playing with other musicians, but I noticed the other day (browsing The Session) that there are Jigs commonly played as an Air.  

So, I don't see anything wrong with making 'Christy Barry's' an 'Air' - as slow as you want! 

I hope more folks find the time to start up a 'Slow Session' group - what a relaxing way to enjoy playing music with others!

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Nice tune, ABitRusty. 

I like more pieces slowed down. I like to hear the tune and not have it speeding through my ears. 

I have learned so much from your blog! I have become aware of the Americana style, I have learned that slower is fine. I have been aboe to listen to your rhythms, etc. Thank you so much for this!

You have given me so much interest in trying this type of music, as you know I did this morning. Thanks for the encouragement, by the way. 

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@mouse ...session/Irish tunes slowed down...yeah me too.  Right now i dont have much choice but theres some i can play faster and like slow.. morrisons for instance.  castle kelly another that is fun to just meander through the notes. My love is in America and foxhunters slip jig seem nice slow.  But then listen to The Chieftans 2 album and you can hear how it can sound up tempo.  One of my favorite versions of foxhunter reel and slip jig are on that one.  And the way tbey arranged the parts its unique..

 

Heres some more 'Americana' type music.  i think theres an album top 40 type playlist similar to pop and rock.  some things are difficult to classify and its probably up to people other tha. the artist to sort.  Im sure the artist just call them songs

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indie folk..singer songwriter...red dirt.. adult alternative...not sure where some groups fall according to hit list.   What i do is in pandora I create a station with a particular song i like then tell it to play similar artsist.   Ive found alot of new to me people and songs that way.   Ill text my son and say listen to this and he is like Dad thats 6 years old..where yah been 🤣

jamestown revival has alot of good songs.   may like them

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@ABitRusty  I like both of your versions of the Christy Barry’s – tempo does change the mood of it.  I might be more drawn to the slower version.  I don’t know, maybe an age thing—I’m thinking that as I’m getting older, I think more like, “What’s the rush?” smile

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@SharonC said
 I like both of your versions of the Christy Barry’s – tempo does change the mood of it.  I might be more drawn to the slower version.  I don’t know, maybe an age thing—I’m thinking that as I’m getting older, I think more like, “What’s the rush?” smile

thank you @SharonC I know what you mean.   Im definately not trying to sell play faster.. actually not either one.  I think was just trying to show that maybe tempo does has alot to do with what is recognizable as an irish tune.   It takes on a different flavor slower or faster. 

Im on the side if you can play it slow well then eventually the tempo comes.  if you try and practice it faster.  Ive not had many occasions where thats happened yet though.  still an infant as far as fiddling goes.  I think when i first started i had the typical conversation about ..how do you play so fast and the person said something along the lines of its actually easier to play that tune faster.  and it does seem from time to time when the stars line up ive got a peek at that.  not anything lately btw... its sorta like the sound barrier.  lol..  things seem like a struggle then theres a break through and it gets more relaxed and even though playing faster it seems like less struggle.  One thing that HAS to happen is not thinking.  I HAVE to know something without thinking about it... and any time i START thinkung about THE TUNE ..I lose it.  

and all this is relative.   what i call fast would be a dirge tempo for someone else.  

the good thing is most of these sound great either way.. so it really doesnt matter.  its what inspires someone to play.

@elcbk idk about where the terms came from and what definitively makes something one vs the other.  For me several years ago i started listening to groups like The Turnpike Troubadors and Reckless Kelly and maybe it was an article or music show that defined them as Americana.  They have a sound thats different than Garth Brooks or Blake Shelton.  Maybe it comes down to leans more on certain instruments... an open back banjo..mandolin..cello in the mix.  idk.    Maybe its more marketing.. say anything produced west of the mississippi and east of LA.  🙂

It seems like a mix of older style country and folk music.   If Buck Owens cut a record today..probably would be lumped in with Americana.   And I dont even know if thats still a term.  Maybe its 15 years dated.   I listen mostly to pandora and not the radio so my music is probably behind the times.
  

for me.. the above groups.. Ryan Bingham..Tyler Childers.. Cody Jinks...Randy Rogers ..Cross Canadian ragweed band.. id lump in the style of Americana.   The earlier steeldrivers to me was somewhere between bluegrass and americana.  others would probably say one or all are country.

its all sorta blurred.  sorta like now with you i bet.  people not familiar with fiddle music couldnt tell scottish, irish, or cape breton fiddling... it would probably all be called celtic music

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@ABitRusty -

Thanks for helping with some of the terms.  I like Childers, have seen quite a few of his songs listed as 'Outlaw Country', but idk. 

I was wondering if there is such a thing as Southern Folk Rock - never quite knew how to classify anything I grew up hearing, and a lot of what I like might teeter between 'Americana' & Southern Rock.

Sorry, deleted previous post because I wanted to talk about the Jamestown Revival, but then I lost internet!!! 

Anyway, like their "Crazy World"! 

I was having such a hard time pin pointing what sounded so familiar to me. 

...maybe a little Bad Moon Rising, but the harmony - America?  Jeez, almost Simon & Garfunkel to me, but maybe a hint of many. 

You got a clue?

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just talk specifically about an individual performer or band and then no worries.  🙂  

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@ABitRusty -

Thanks for getting me to think about this! 

Turns out Wikipedia has quite a bit of info, interesting history - a list of 'notably artists' of "Americana Music".  ...surprised to find Lana Del Rey on the list! (💖) 

Great article worth reading at 'U discover music' - Americana: How Country And Roots Music Found A “Brand New Dance”

Jimmie Fadden, from The Nitty Gritty Dirt Band, is quoted in the book The Americana Revolution, saying that “Americana was an attempt to group together a lot of unexplainable forms of roots music in a way that could be encapsulated, presented to an audience, with an understanding of it having a name.”

The name is now significant. Americana music is progressive and cutting-edge, and one of the best-selling music genres for albums – outselling R&B, hip-hop, and dance in 2016, according to Billboard – and acclaimed by cultural heavyweights. PEN/Faulkner award-winning novelist Ann Patchett once told The New York Times that Americana is “the coolest music scene today.” 

 

So, looks like "Americana" is the genre/term I've been searching for - makes it SO MUCH EASIER for me to describe a lot of music I like! 🤗 

Sorry... please get back to YOUR music!!!

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So, looks like "Americana" is the genre/term I've been searching for - makes it SO MUCH EASIER for me to describe a lot of music I like! 🤗 

great!   welcome aboard!

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I think this would transfer over to a string quartet pretty good.  One in the style of The Fretless or fiddlermans that post videos every once in a while.

maybe a cello doing some choping for the drum.. viola taking over the guitar.  idk..just think its a song that could be transferred well.

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Re Post 277: I think you are right. Maybe add some bass plucking notes? I Don't do, what I think is, pizzicato?

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Re Post 277: I think you are right. Maybe add some bass plucking notes? I Don't do, what I think is, pizzicato?

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Yeah!   would be great..   theres also a baritone guitar there i think... cello there?  idk

i cracked up watching this.   It reminded me of me playing.  not the sound..the awkward part...lol

like a high school talent show.

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I worked on The Sligo Maid tonight.  Another 4th finger on E string workout for me.  The cat rrally likes it.

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