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Katie L’s Violin Slog
Starting off with trying to get straight detache bowing.
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Katie M

Way to go.

Mark

Master the Frog and you have mastered the bow.

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Thanks all. I now know not to panic and just chill out a bit. Just watching the music and notes change is a big help. As is writing the note values along the top!

Anyway back to Gymnopedie now 😬

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I’ve got some new music ..77F29324-92B6-4832-9D7D-EC2652FA324E.jpegImage Enlarger

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@Katie L -

Very pretty - nice project! 

Have you seen these, in case you need help?  https://www.youtube.com/@Violi.....0Butterfly

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Sorry it’s the wrong way up but you get the idea.. I’ll have a look Emily ! Im going to need to learn this from memory , can’t be turn the page all the way through. Lots of f naturals too. 

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@Katie L -

You know I think it's great to memorize everything, but I've seen people place several music stands, side-by-side, so they just step over to the next page! (lol)

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I have a large stand with side extenders so I can have 6 pages out in plane sight, I'm horrible at turning pages and trying to play.

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Albert Sammons

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Mark said
I have a large stand with side extenders so I can have 6 pages out in plane sight, I'm horrible at turning pages and trying to play. 

I've got a normal stand with a sheet of hardboard on it, lol. (and some bulldog clips. If I could find the right materials I'd make a shelf)

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Maybe I could blue tac to the walls. 

I found this 

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Been having a go at some of the Madam Butterfly music.. it’s better to lower the volume if you fancy a listen !

Early days Madam Butterfly

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GREAT START! 🤗 

While skimming over a viola masterclass tonight, one of the instructors reminded the person playing (and me 😁) that there are 3 parts to each note played (beginning, middle & ending), and each is bowed differently (speed and pressure). 

...I was just thinking this might be the perfect piece to really explore that. 

 

← "Violin Time" by flablau at deviantart

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Ohhh yes I’ll keep that in mind. Thanks for watching. I’m kind of just exploring the music at the moment but I think listening to the Albert Stein version is going to help me a lot.. lots of phrasing going on !! 

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Some more Madam Butterfly …

Warning … my friend didn’t have a clue what it was …

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Mini breakthrough tonight whilst practicing ( which i wasn’t going to do). Started playing the schradieck exercise number one and found I could reach my fourth finger much easier! Bit of a miracle as I haven’t exactly been thinking about my fourth finger. Just felt a lot easier. I have been doing some finger articulation exercises without the bow so maybe that’s helped it. But I haven’t exactly been doing those exercises for long so not sure.. anyway I’m not complaining I’m happy !! 

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@Katie L  Practice over time works.  Seems like a simple thing to say, but it does.  It's the "over time" part that gets us.  Like watching a kettle, waiting for it to boil--once we're not paying attention to it, it just seems to happen like magic.

Your increased fourth finger capability is probably a culmination of your recent finger articulation exercises as well as all the work you done before (i.e., both short & long term efforts).

I remember the first time I was able to shift into 3rd position without figuring it out ahead of time (i.e., the first time looking at & playing a particular music passage). 

I just stopped playing and said "Oh my God--that just happened!  I didn't even think about it."  It was like the clouds parted in the sky & angels were singing smile

Characterize people by their actions and you will never be fooled by their words.

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@Katie L  Great work on Madame Butterfly--you've got nice, even pressure on the bow.

Characterize people by their actions and you will never be fooled by their words.

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That’s amazing Sharon! I get what you are saying. It’s like my practice is paying off ! I was in a slight slump , madam butterfly is a hard slog but I’m feeling pretty good now! It’s is a bit of a stop what you are doing and think what’s just happened moment - like your shifting into third position ! 

Thanks for watching madam butterfly as well 😁

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Katie M said
  my practice is paying off !

It is. It is very hard for us to realise that our practice pays off, as when we hear ourselves from day to day we don't notice the slow changes in the way we play, but outsiders (& teachers) who hear us once a month notice. It's important not to get dejected.

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Thanks Gordon and …. Another Christmas miracle .. I realised this morning I can reach the tip of the bow !!!  I slightly changed my set up a while ago but I hadn’t t noticed until this morning when I realised I was at the top .. took a pic maybe the wrong way round but I’ll post it anyway 😁B25AEA62-C630-4029-A09C-3194C344EAD7.jpegImage Enlarger

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I’ve been messing around with my shoulder rest today. I’ve swapped my Bon Musica for my Kun just because I was getting a bit of neck ache ! I think because the Bon Musica hooks over the shoulder maybe it’s locking it in place causing neck tension. Also I find the Bon Musica a bit clumpy and heavy .. well anyway I’m going to experiment . I expect I’ll swap back but I’m going to give it a bit of time !

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