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The Old Guy Re-Entering the String World
A personal view of the start of a journey into music and the viola.
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Finally! Practiced again last night for the first time since Sunday, Dec 26th! Only half an hour, but a good restart. Played non-Christmas tunes, Man of Constant Sorrow, Nearer My God to Thee, Ode to Joy, Blackest Crow, Amazing Grace, Wayfaring Stranger, Ducks on the Mill Pond, Blind Mary, Bridge Over Troubled Waters, Simple Gifts, and Improv.

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Practiced late tonight (10:30pm) and only got 40 minutes in playing the same tunes as last night. I little more improvisation in general and on Amazing Grace. Messed around with bows and rosin a bit and decided the gifted carbon fiber bow is a blessing! I am now at the point that I can truly tell the difference in the increased weight and tone that it helps. Also trying the Sartory Rosin that I got with it and will continue to use it. I think the problems I had with it early on was due to my ineptness, not the rosin. Now that I've progressed a bit more, it seems to work better for me!

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Got an hour in tonight with a half hour on the same as last night and half an hour going through the 13 Christmas tunes. Would have practiced longer but ended up with a backache that curtailed that idea. I don't stand to practice, as I've stated before, as the peripheral neuropathy makes me too uncomfortable.

It was a good practice, though. Enjoyed playing a whole bunch until the backache started.

The old curmudgeon!

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I am pleased you had a good practice/playing session. What a way to end the year, except for the back ache.

The Bumblebee Flies!

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So, my practice session tonight was an hour setting up and attempting (many times) to record I Saw Three Ships for the Christmas Party. Here is the least bad! lol This will also be posted there.

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Tonight was close to 2 hours as I attempted to record Christmas tunes. Finally accepted four of them, The Holly and the Ivy, Good King Wenceslas, O Come, O Come Emmanuel, and Away in the Manger. None are excellent, but all passable.

I had to do The Holly and the Ivy since those are our two cat's names. My brother-in-law fostered four kittens around Christmas time about 11 years ago. The others were named Kris (Kringle) and Noel. I pushed to choose these two because they reminded me of this tune!

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JohnG

Way to go, you have progressed nicely since starting your fiddle journey, enjoyed listening to Your recordings.

 

Mark 

Master the Frog and you have mastered the bow.

Albert Sammons

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Way to go John. Thanks for posting!

"The richest person is not the one who has the most,
but the one who needs the least."

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@Fiddlerman and @Mark - Thank you, both! It's getting harder to post videos since I hear more of my mistakes and aberrant tones. But they are one way to learn more.

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Something new and different tonight, after not planning on practicing at all.

Somewhere I recently saw and heard a tune called Dark Island and fell in love with it. I have since found that @ABitRusty and @BillyG posted renditions back in October, 2020. I found sheet music for it in the key of G major (or is it E minor) and I've transposed it in MuseScore to C major (or is it A minor). This was done to avoid a high D on the A string! lol It also served to get it down into the register that I prefer on the viola, since that is why I don't play violin!

Bottom line is that I practiced only this piece (plus a couple of minutes of improv) for half an hour. I love it!!!! If and when I put it up on YouTube, I will probably use the original name of Dr Mackay's Farewell to Creagorry as named by Iain McLachlan, the composer, to hopefully avoid copyright issues as described by BillyG.

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JohnG said
@Fiddlerman and @Mark - Thank you, both! It's getting harder to post videos since I hear more of my mistakes and aberrant tones. But they are one way to learn more.

Exactly, and that's OK. The fact that you are hearing more mistakes, means that you are becoming a better musician. :)

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but the one who needs the least."

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And now for something new(er). I decided I wanted a backing track for Dark Island, so I've been messing around in MuseScore and added a recorder track that I composed and then added a very basic drum track (actually tympani since it doesn't have bodhran). Here it is with MuseScore's very basic instruments.

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sahweet!  Nice job @JohnG.  have you been playing viola with it?  

how is the library studio thing going?

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@JohnG -

I LOVE IT!   

Thank you for sharing your creativity - I've always loved "Dark Island"! 🥰 

I'm envious.   Every time I think I can take a day to start learning more about Musescore and the software for my amp, etc... I get sidetracked. 

It's SOOO important that you all keep showing me stuff like this, because I need to be reminded of what direction I should be going.  It inevitably helps me focus. 

I still have too much on my plate - at least I'm slowly whittling away at it all. 

 

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/69/Singer_Castle.JPG/300px-Singer_Castle.JPG

 

According to info on The Session, this tune is from Scotland and was known by several other names before the BBC took it to use for a thriller TV series. 

Funny, there is a "Dark Island" in the St. Lawrence Seaway - it's part of New York State.  There is a cool castle that was built on it, by the Singer sewing machine magnate! 

 

...now, of course, I expect the next time I hear this it will be YOU I hear playing along! 🤗 

- Emily

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@ABitRusty - Thanks, so far only been trying to play it through without the backing track. Need to get my fingers, mind, and bow working together first. Haven't been back to the library since before Christmas, hopefully when I get this ironed out, that is where I will record it.

@ELCBK - Thanks, this was relatively easy to do in MuseScore. The music is annotated with the chords and I just used the notes from the appropriate chord and just winged it! The tympani was chosen because it have varying pitch, but is mostly to get some kind of rhythm. At the rate I'm progressing it will be awhile before you hear me playing this.

Practiced an hour tonight exclusively with this tune except for a brief run through of Amazing Grace to unwind a bit.

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@JohnG if youre taking request... ducks on a millpond.   i see youre working on it and if its the same tune ive heard id like to get that one down too.  one day... id say youre progressining (word?  now it is 😅) is great.  

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@ABitRusty - You mean a video of Ducks on the Millpond or a self-made backing track? I'm afraid my backing tracks will be rather rudimentary. Sometimes I can almost play it well, and then poof, back to square one (or is it minus one?).

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JohnG said
@ABitRusty - You mean a video of Ducks on the Millpond or a self-made backing track? I'm afraid my backing tracks will be rather rudimentary. Sometimes I can almost play it well, and then poof, back to square one (or is it minus one?).

  

i was just saying if you ever are trying to decide on a tune to post of you playing...ducks on a millpond is a neat sounding tune.   but a backing for it would be cool too.

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@JohnG -

I forgot I wanted to mention you are playing so well and, like anything else, your rate of progress is increasing, too. 🤗  Don't get frustrated - you haven't even given yourself 1 year!

When I watch you play, your long fingers on your bow are very obvious. 

I saw something that Darol Anger added to his bow pad that you might benefit from - not sure what it is, exactly.  If you get a chance, watch his 'Bow Grip' video to see it closer - I posted it here, in this thread. 

https://fiddlerman.com/forum/l.....2/#p122138

 

https://www.timetopet.com/cdn/company_logos/wL10T8Q9jnVo_Au_1519320327.png

I have modified my bow, but for a different reason.  I wrapped a narrow strip of black tape around the end of my pad (nearest the frog) to build it up a bit - but this was to allow a little deeper/narrower space (between the frog & pad) for the edge of my thumb to nestle. 

- Emily

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@ELCBK - Thanks for that, interesting lesson on bow holds including how and when to shift them. The mod seemed to be a strip just beyond the frog to fatten up the stick. May have to try that and see if it makes a difference.

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