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hi! i'm new and i fiddle to irritate my neighbors with the barking chihuahua
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So far as that chihuahua, have you considered the idea of maybe buying a few of those 'silent' ultrasonic dog whistles and making a sort of pan pipes from them?  Or hey, maybe even bagpipes?

It could be a new product on the music market.  People are always looking for instruments they can play late at night without the neighbors hearing it and complaining.

bagpipes-1254happypug

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DanielB said

So far as that chihuahua, have you considered the idea of maybe buying a few of those 'silent' ultrasonic dog whistles and making a sort of pan pipes from them?  Or hey, maybe even bagpipes?

It could be a new product on the music market.  People are always looking for instruments they can play late at night without the neighbors hearing it and complaining.

bagpipes-1254happypug

LOL! I gotta set a pipes alright, I open the back door and holler "ENOUGH KENNETH".

Yes, the chihuahua is named Kenneth.

I dog sit him and have grown quite fond of the little menace. If he pesters me while I'm practicing, I chase him around the house to the tune of "La Cucaracha", on the E string. Its that E string that really gets him, tee hee.

Music is your own experience, your own thoughts, your wisdom. If you don't live it, it won't come out of your horn. They teach you there's a boundary line to music. But, man, there's no boundary line to art. Charlie Parker

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now THAT would be a youtube moment. I have to see video of that...

you chasing a little ankle bitter trying to play that tune on the violin!

roflolroflolroflolroflolfacepalm

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Yes yes yes!!! There is an expression surfing, "The best surfer on the water is the one having the most fun!"

Oh, now I wish I had that moment captured to share - but I think you have the image in mind.

And the moment is lost... I can't recreate it as now, if I pick up the fiddle, Kenneth buries himself in the bed pillows.

(Tamlin 1, Chihuahua 0)

Music is your own experience, your own thoughts, your wisdom. If you don't live it, it won't come out of your horn. They teach you there's a boundary line to music. But, man, there's no boundary line to art. Charlie Parker

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Wow amazing! I just signed up in this forum for violinists and moments ago posted my introduction, and then minutes later I find people here with interest in open source software, AI, robotics, etc.

I myself use Debian Linux for all my computing needs and still try to keep my programming skills intact by using Lisp and Perl whenever possible and occasionally play with microcontrollers even though what I do for a living now is unrelated.  Btw I did physics and computing in college and AI was my thesis.

How strange! Now I'm even more glad that I found this site/forum.

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Too funny I was wondering the same thing thanks for the lol

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seetho said

Wow amazing! I just signed up in this forum for violinists and moments ago posted my introduction, and then minutes later I find people here with interest in open source software, AI, robotics, etc.

I myself use Debian Linux for all my computing needs and still try to keep my programming skills intact by using Lisp and Perl whenever possible and occasionally play with microcontrollers even though what I do for a living now is unrelated.  Btw I did physics and computing in college and AI was my thesis.

How strange! Now I'm even more glad that I found this site/forum.

Hi Seetho. Warm greetings from the other side of the planet!

You may appreciate this... I named my proper violin "Pearl"... after Perl because I used Perl for one of the coolest, slickest, neato-bandito algos I ever wrote. Violin is tough to learn... some days I wonder how long it would take me to build a robot that plays better than me. Ha ha!!

Happy Fiddling!

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tamlin said

You may appreciate this... I named my proper violin "Pearl"... after Perl because I used Perl for one of the coolest, slickest, neato-bandito algos I ever wrote. Violin is tough to learn... some days I wonder how long it would take me to build a robot that plays better than me. Ha ha!!
Happy Fiddling!

From the noise I make now, I'd have to name my violin 'Bosch' after my power drill. Hopefully it won't take too long before I can give it a better name.

Robots!? Nah. I'll bet you can play better than this one

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....zjkBwZtxp4

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Nice parlour trick.  But if you look closely, it doesn't play "properly" at all.  Notice how it gets vibrato?   It appears to be using varying tension on the string.

Various automata that can play one or more songs on an instrument have been around since the invention of clockwork. 

"This young wine may have a lot of tannins now, but in 5 or 10 years it is going to be spectacular, despite the fact that right now it tastes like crude oil. You know this is how it is supposed to taste at this stage of development." ~ Itzhak Perlman

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DanielB said
Nice parlour trick.  But if you look closely, it doesn't play "properly" at all.  Notice how it gets vibrato?   It appears to be using varying tension on the string.

Various automata that can play one or more songs on an instrument have been around since the invention of clockwork. 

Danny,, wudda ya expect for plastic finger's ?   At least he's getting "some" vibrato. I wonder how many FM tutorial's he had to watch.rofl

I can remember back when I was about 3 years old, there was a Tavern my grandfather used to frequent. Again'st one  wall  there was a "Nickleodeon" that for 5 cents a violin played a song ( which I can't remember) inside the glass box. About the size of the one's you find in K-Mart store's with the crane claw's and the stuffed creature's you try to grab.

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Actually, my complaint is more that this often-posted vid shows a bot that is such a one-trick pony, and I would expect better for something being presented as if it is a showpiece.  One would expect a company with a budget like Toyota would do a bit better. 

There are people with "animatronic" type prosthetic hands that can play musical instruments in much the same fashion so far as techniques as people who don't need prosthetic hands.

So my gripe is basically "This isn't even anywhere near state of the art", and a well constructed player piano would be more impressive in my opinion.

But what *could* one expect from plastic (or other non biological material) fingers?

I'll keep it to one example of many, since this isn't exactly a robotics forum.. But check out what this can do so far as range of motions and control.  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....re=related

 

With some very good programming, I think that might be able to play a violin.  I would find that impressive.  And yeah, before you mention it, obviously it would need some sort of soft padding on the fingertips to get the same sounds as a human hand could get. 

"This young wine may have a lot of tannins now, but in 5 or 10 years it is going to be spectacular, despite the fact that right now it tastes like crude oil. You know this is how it is supposed to taste at this stage of development." ~ Itzhak Perlman

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I'm convinced that we are well on the path towards creating the perfect robot that can play the violin perfectly and even creating a computer that mimics the human brain (which is essentially a self-organising mass of logic circuits.)  However, the thing that makes us perfectly human is actually our imperfections.  You just can't replicate the experiences you go through growing up from baby to adulthood. For that I enjoy watching the 'He's a Pirate' or the 'Ghostbusters' videos far more than the Toyota robot.

Just my 2 cents wink

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seetho said
I enjoy watching the 'He's a Pirate' or the 'Ghostbusters' videos far more than the Toyota robot.

 

  thumbs-up to that!

"This young wine may have a lot of tannins now, but in 5 or 10 years it is going to be spectacular, despite the fact that right now it tastes like crude oil. You know this is how it is supposed to taste at this stage of development." ~ Itzhak Perlman

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seetho said

I'm convinced that we are well on the path towards creating the perfect robot that can play the violin perfectly and even creating a computer that mimics the human brain (which is essentially a self-organising mass of logic circuits.)  However, the thing that makes us perfectly human is actually our imperfections.  You just can't replicate the experiences you go through growing up from baby to adulthood. For that I enjoy watching the 'He's a Pirate' or the 'Ghostbusters' videos far more than the Toyota robot.

Just my 2 cents wink

I used to work for Honda, I think we are a long way off a robot with the 'nuances' of a human. The fact we are not perfect and can never play 'to perfection' makes us all unique

I am amazed at how old people of my age are.....

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Brrrrr ahhh ha ha (that's my Evil Laughter of World Domination).... just wait until you see the contents of my Secret Lab. First it plays then violin, then it raises an army for the final Cylon Apocalypse. Fiddles while Rome burns...

Music is your own experience, your own thoughts, your wisdom. If you don't live it, it won't come out of your horn. They teach you there's a boundary line to music. But, man, there's no boundary line to art. Charlie Parker

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