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ELCBK said
 found this tradition Welsh Christmas tune, "Y Gelynnen" (The Holly)  

Curious. I've been reading Anglo Saxon literature and there's a riddle where Hlyn is maple and Holen is holly.

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ELCBK said
@Gordon Shumway -  

Sorry, about the only thing I know about the Welsh language is my eldest Granddaughter's name. 😊

Got my info from thesession.org

 "Y Gelynnen - also known as The Holly". 

Down in the comments, one person contributed this info: 

Y = the

Celynnen = Holly / Holly Tree (both translations exist)

~ after the ‘Y’ the ‘C’ mutates to ‘G’…

Y ~ ‘uh(r)’

Gel-yn-nen ~ ‘gal’ - ‘un’ - ‘nan’ 

 

...Google translate only gave me - "Holly = Celyn"

  

The only thing I know about Welsh, apart from the fact that it's Indo-European, is that, whereas most such languages inflect at the end of the word, Welsh inflects at the beginning. How the dictionaries work, I have no idea, lol! (there will be a root form, I guess).

Actually, it seems that hlyn = maple is a guess from hlynr being maple in Icelandic.

But I doubt there are many maple trees in Iceland, so perhaps the Icelandic was a guess too! Otoh, there's no doubt about holen, so hlyn can't be holly.

Wiktionary is useful https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/celyn

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki.....#Old_Norse

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ELCBK said
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Think you can sink your teeth into this one!

Found this tradition Welsh Christmas tune, "Y Gelynnen" (The Holly) - fit for any session (Tim Roush)!  

 

Sheet music available at thesession.org! 

 

https://i2-prod.walesonline.co.uk/incoming/article14073078.ece/ALTERNATES/s615b/Holly-Shrub-Misletoe.jpg

 

- Emily

  

Yeah that is good and like it!  Sounds a bit old timey too!

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@stringy - you might enjoy this!

Cass Meurig is a wonderful Welsh fiddler & crwth player as well as singer & song writer.  

Here's a set of 3 traditional Welsh tunes, "Caru Yn Y Coed" (Courting in the Woods), "Cerdd Y Gog Lwydlas" (Cuckoo's Song), and "Lliw Lili Ymysg Y Drain" (Lily Among the Thorns) - Cass Meurig & Nial Cain.  

 

 

Here Cass plays a traditional Welsh, medieval sounding, tune on the Crwth! 

Ffarwel Ned Puw (Ned Puw Farewell?)

 

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/d6/2e/38/d62e3875872742e73f63f142d23b74b8.png

 

...really loving Welsh trad! 

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Well, it's getting near Christmas, so take a few minutes to relax - hear the poem, "A Child's Christmas in Wales", interwoven with the University of Arkansas Schola Cantorum Carols

 

 

A Child's Christmas in Wales - Dylan Thomas

Nos Galan (Old Welsh Carol) 

The White Snow - 2:14

The Cat Carol - 5:10

A Hot Time in the Old Town - 9:55

Between Covers of Books - 12:42

Mid-Winter - 15:33

Christmas Bells - 20:05

The Kings - 24:23

Toy Packaging - 27:30

One Tin Soldier - 30:45

Toyland - 34:31

The Christmas Song - 39:30

Upon the Sand - 44:10

O, the beautiful old story - 49:42

Peace, thou hippopotamus! - 52:28

Rum in my tea - 55:22

https://4.bp.blogspot.com/_fdou0Xa3IfY/SxcNwiQIQaI/AAAAAAAAFU8/u4rnkeY1aPM/s320/a+blue+holly.jpg

Good King Winceslas - 58:10

O come all ye faithful - 59:30

Cherry Ripe - 1:00:07

Drake's Drum - 1:01:13

Suo Gan (Welsh lullaby) - 1:02:22

Silent Night - 1:04:00

Happy Holidays!

- Emily

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