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It's a miracle!
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I have to be honest, for the past couple of months I haven't been trying all that hard to progress with my lessons.  I've been suffering from acute tendonitis in my left elbow.  I learned from my doctor that there are 2 types, "tennis" and "golfers" because the tendons affected are on the outside and inside respectively.

Apparently I have both at the same time due to work related repetitive stress.

This has made it very painful to practice, especially when combined with my general joint stiffness, to the point I've been thinking of giving up playing all together.  With therapy and exercises, anti-inflamatories, and time off from playing and work, my arm at least doesn't hurt all the time and I can actually bend my elbow again without wincing.  It's still not healed, but I'm improving.

 

But that's not the miracle part.

 

The miracle is something I found as a snippet in a video about something else.  (As an aside, why are all these things always hidden and not in "how to" videos on their own?)  In the video the instructor mentioned the best and fastest method on how to learn new music is bar by bar instead of phrase by phrase.  (In short; play the first bar 7 times.  Then play the next bar 7 times.  Then play both bars 7 times.  Then play the next bar 7 times, play the trio 7 times, and so on.  When playing the bar, concentrate on fixing the mistakes in your playing and fingering if any.  When playing the entire phrase with the new bar added at the end, concentrate of getting the new bar integrated with the phrase smoothly.  Fix any mistakes, play 7 times to set the "fix", then go on to the next bar.)

I recently uploaded a new video of my most current lesson to my channel and moved on hoping that at some point in the next 2 months, or maybe 3, I could finish that lesson and post the video of it without crippling myself in the process.  The new lesson is the Waltz by Brahms in Suzuki 2 and it uses almost every technique I've learned up to this point.  It's not a complex piece but it's not simple either, there are dynamics for almost everything in there, and it dropped some of the helpful markings (like bow direction) I've been using.

I applied the "bar by bar" method to the new piece and that's when the miracle happened.

Within 30 minutes I could play the entire piece.  Not perfectly and there are issues with some of my dynamics, but I could play all 5 lines in their entirety.  This is something I've never experienced before.  Best part is that my elbow only ached a little bit.

I stopped after that half hour and waited until today to play again.  After warming up with scales, I tried to play the waltz again and discovered I could still play the piece from start to finish.  It's true that some of yesterdays "fixes" didn't hold and I had to work on them again today, but for the most part I could play it from start to finish without it sounding completely horrible.

To me that is a miracle and it renewed my desire to move forward with my lessons.  Which is another miracle in its own right.  So much so that I had to share the "how to" tip... when learning a new piece tackle it bar by bar and not phrase by phrase.

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Just about everyone here on the forum has suggested it's important to break down music into what's manageable for ourselves - as little as it may be, as slow as needed, to start learning. 😊 

So, you watched the Suzuki Violin Online Video of "How To Memorize Music Quickly"

Rebekah Hood-Sava talks about phrases as 'chunks' before talking about breaking them down by measure.  I think it's so students become aware of the structure of 'phrases' in music - extremely important.  I see she offers play-along videos for all the pieces in the first 3 Suzuki Violin Books on YouTube & also has monthly subscription-based lessons online. 

Hope you can continue to practice a little every day.  Progress doesn't have to be anything huge, but enough to keep yourself going.

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ELCBK said
Just about everyone here on the forum has suggested it's important to break down music into what's manageable for ourselves - as little as it may be, as slow as needed, to start learning. 😊 

So, you watched the Suzuki Violin Online Video of "How To Memorize Music Quickly"

Rebekah Hood-Sava talks about phrases as 'chunks' before talking about breaking them down by measure.  I think it's so students become aware of the structure of 'phrases' in music - extremely important.  I see she offers play-along videos for all the pieces in the first 3 Suzuki Violin Books on YouTube & also has monthly subscription-based lessons online. 

Hope you can continue to practice a little every day.  Progress doesn't have to be anything huge, but enough to keep yourself going.

  

 

It wasn't that video, it was probably something about learning to play the piano.  I've been watching a lot of piano videos lately because you don't have to twist your arm out of its socket to play the piano.** laugh Unfortunately I don't really remember the subject of that video because it didn't connect until I was watching the Brahms lesson video.  All I really remember is that snippet.

 

Practice still isn't every day right now, the doc says to take it easy for awhile longer.  But at least I can bend my elbow again without having to grit my teeth and brace myself first.

I think the coolest part of the technique is that I can concentrate on not gripping so tightly while learning each bar.  I only have to play a little before stopping so my attention can be focused on the music and my technique at the same time.  I run out of notes before I run out of brain power and if my technique needs adjusted I can do it right then.  The tension in my left arm is a lot less than it used to be after learning to do it this way too.  Which is a real blessing.

 

 

**I'm probably going to buy a piano or keyboard later this year once I finish this book.  I'll still play my violin and I'm still considering moving on to Book 3 with it, but my tremors aren't going to get any better (they'll get worse no matter what I do) and a piano won't be as affected by the shaking.  I already knew I wasn't going to be a virtuoso so this isn't a shock or disappointment at all.

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I think working in phrasing might be too much for some, or too much for some with particular songs. I really never thought of bars. That might work better for me than phrasing in some pieces. I will have to remember that. 

Piano/keyboard is nice.

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Mouse said
I think working in phrasing might be too much for some, or too much for some with particular songs. I really never thought of bars. That might work better for me than phrasing in some pieces. I will have to remember that. 

Piano/keyboard is nice.

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It was an absolute shock to realize how quickly I got through the entire piece and could play it credibly well at the same time.

Normally something like this waltz would take me a week to learn by breaking it down into the 2 phrases and working on them individually.  Once I got the whole thing worked out, it would then take 1 to 2 more weeks to get to a comfortable zone in the playing.  Getting to that point in 30 minutes is such a huge difference that it can't just be my playing ability improved overnight.

 

After sleeping on it, I think the video was about a 60 minute challenge to learn a new piece of music and play it perfectly.  If I'm right about that, this was probably the technique they used to do it.

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