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coolpinkone
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January 29, 2012 - 12:02 pm
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I thought I had deciphered it all and had the first part down. (fingering and playing)....  Now I see the little ## symbols at the beginning of each line.  SO, I guess It is back to the drawing board for me.  I suppose it is going to make my Over the Rainbow better...but that was a whole week of practice...... Live and learn. ... ..

I need to do some basic practicing.and finger placement, and welll the basics.... ..I just wanted to have a pretty song to play for myself.  (Just to know I can do it)....

Always baby steps.  I am getting closer to and closer to the conclusion that I need a bit of tape or something.. to mark..not every place...but a few......It isn't that my ears can't tell I am doing it wrong...it is that my ears can't help me find how to do it right.....

So I am off with Coffee pen and paper and will trying to write out the notes in the sharps and figure out the fingering.

 

Happy Sunday to all...

Vibrato Desperato.... Desperately seeking vibrato

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If there's coffee. There will be success! At least that is my opinion.. Good luck! And I am sorry you faceplanted into a brick wall like that.. Never fun =/ 

Good luck though!

"Art, as far as it is able, follows nature, as a pupil imitates his master; thus your art must be, as it were, God's grandchild."

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January 29, 2012 - 12:14 pm
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Thanks.... while I am sitting here looking at the music.... it has two sharp symbols i the beginning...on different locations.....am I to assume that all the notes that line up with the sharp symbol on that particular line are sharp?

 

Thanks for good luck.... looks like I will need it... and more coffee...

Vibrato Desperato.... Desperately seeking vibrato

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I am no master on notes. But if I remember correctly the sharp signs identifies what key the line is played in.. 2 sharp signs means D major. If it makes sense :D

"Art, as far as it is able, follows nature, as a pupil imitates his master; thus your art must be, as it were, God's grandchild."

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coolpinkone
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January 29, 2012 - 12:32 pm
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Thank you.. It does make sense... but I am not sure I will be able to apply it... But I guess the key is knowing the dmajor notes...then I would know to play F# rather than F.

But... maybe this Over the Rainbow is a bit OVER my head...ha ha.

cry

Vibrato Desperato.... Desperately seeking vibrato

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January 29, 2012 - 1:06 pm
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From my music theory book:

 

"If you want to find the tonic note of the major scale, you take the last sharp, and you increase by one half tone".

 

The sharps are always in the same order

Fa Do Sol Ré La Mi Si

In the english/US notation it is :

F C G D A E B

 

So if you have 2 sharps for example, it means the last sharp is a C#, the scale will be a C# + 1/2 tone = D major

 

Finally if you want to find the notes again with the right tone adjustment knowing the tonic, you have to apply the same pattern for the tone/halftone starting the scale with the tonic

 

D<=1=>E<=1=>F#<=1/2=>G<=1=>A<=1=>B<=1=>C#<=1/2=>D

So :

D
E
F#
G
A
B
C#

 

I hope i was not too off-topic, that this is not wrong, and that it helped cheers

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al_th said

 
The sharps are always in the same order

Fa Do Sol Ré La Mi Si

In the english/US notation it is :

F C G D A E B

 

amuse My old piano teacher helped me remember the order the sharps come in with "Funny Clowns Go Daffy And Eat Beans."

I've learned so much from my mistakes that I've decided to make some more.

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Fiddlerman
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January 29, 2012 - 5:22 pm
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Yes, the sharps correspond to the lines that they are one CPO. They also correspond to the octave below and above. In other words every F should be sharp and every C as well if you have two sharps in the key signature. The exception is when an accidental is written in the part.

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When in D Major and you come across a C natural should that C be played as a nayural until it is noted as a sharp again or go right back to a sharp?

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Thank you all.... I am not sure what the "sharps are in the same order" mean..... But I get that all the Cs and F's should be sharp. I used the Fiddlerman's fingering chart on the DM scale to correspond to the letters on the Fiddlerman's free sheet music.

So I have made the changes....it is written out.....I warmed up...and broke my D string..... :(...... Will pick one up locally tomorrow....

But that is okay...I can't wait to refine my Rainbow.....
cheers and thank you.

Vibrato Desperato.... Desperately seeking vibrato

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Sorry to hear about the string cpo.cry

Whenever you run across an "accidental" as you mentioned above Kevin, you continue playing that accidental only though-out the measure in which it is contained in. After that measure you return to whatever notes are indicated by the key signature.

exactly

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coolpinkone said

Thank you all.... I am not sure what the "sharps are in the same order" mean..... 

It means that if you look at the beginning of the line :

- if you see 3 sharps it will be :

F C G 

- if you see 4 sharps it will be :

F C G D

-if you see 5 sharps it will be :

F C G D A 

 

Etc
 

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