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Katie L
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I’d like to know what I’m supposed to do during a rest ? Do I keep the bow moving ? Would it seem rushed? As always thanks for any help! 

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@Katie L - 

I leave my bow on the string during a rest, unless I have been using a bow stroke that leaves the string, like staccato - then I take that rest time to carefully place my bow back on the string for the next note. 

You don't want to drag your bow thru a rest, but (IMHO) that doesn't mean abruptly stopping sound before the rest.  I would try not to sound rigid or robotic unless something like a martelé stroke is called for. 

That said, I'm not sure I can explain this very well... I want a soft/light ending of a note/bow stroke before the rest and a soft/smooth beginning of the note/bow stroke after a rest.  These are all more subtle & quicker movements than they sound, but make a difference. 

You may not notice much during fast passages, but it's worth experimenting to get your bow to sound like it slowly disappears and then try see what it takes to get your violin/strings to resonate at the end of a bow stroke - helps me stay aware of my bow.  I like to visualize, 'dancing on the strings'. 

Keep up the great work - you have wonderful finger, hand, wrist & arm control to use. 🤗 

 

...sorry, edited cause I got carried away again. (lol)

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Always depends on the context. There's no particular thing that should always be done during a rest. Focus on the end of the note before the rest, and the beginning of the note after the rest, and making them sound the way you want them to. During the rest, it's just a matter of getting from the end of one note to the beginning of the next note. You don't have to be moving the whole time, but you should do whatever you need to do to set yourself up for the next note after the rest.

Also, make sure you're giving the rest its full value. It's very common to want to rush rests because you're not playing.

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I think it depends on what's coming.

If you have a rest and the next note requires you to retake the bow, then that's what you do during the rest.  I also check that I'm going to have enough bow for the next series of bow strokes, if not then I surrepticiously retake the bow anyway.

Otherwise, I just pause and count.  And breathe.

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Thanks all for the replies at least I know what to do now ! I definitely rush through them Andrew . 

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@Katie L 

 

This video is a good example (I think) of what to do during a rest.  There's a lot of them in the piece she's playing - the 8th rest at 1:55 and a half rest at 2:15 are very obvious.

 

Bonus:  She does a lot of vibrato in this video so watching it might help you

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Excellent example and wow, what a wonderful rendition of that song!

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Mouse I agree what a great rendition of that song,

It goes on my to learn list for sure.

Mark

Master the Frog and you have mastered the bow.

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Thank you RDP that’s interesting to see. She does Vincent starry starry night as well and it’s amazing ! I’m doing Vincent and that’s why I need help with the rests not sure why I didn’t think to go back and listen to her play it. Brilliant though isn’t she. She makes it look so effortless.. I actually did a concert today I played Vincent, hey Jude, morning has broken . Annie’s song, Autumn and they all really liked it! 😁

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The video is from 2013 or so.  She's a decade older now but still puts videos up on youboob.

 

I just wish I had 1/10th of the grace and talent of her left hand.  Her fingers just float over the fingerboard.

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I like how she starts a note without vibrato and then adds a bit. Is that creating colours ? Puts my Vincent starry starry night to total shame !!

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When I was deciding to learn how to play a violin, I had to choose between an electric or acoustic violin.  I really wanted an electric because of the way she plays but I'm actually glad I chose the acoustic instead.

I'm thinking about adding starry starry night to my recital list.  Might not, but I might.  It's pleasant to listen to and that's what I'm really looking for in music.

 

Seyoung is another violinist who posts on youboob and plays assorted covers on an electric violin.  Her Beethoven Virus is terrific.  I've seen running spiders move their 8 legs slower than she moves her fingers when playing that piece.

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