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Alf,
My teacher has - "Higher Ed.Dip Grade 8 Distinction" which means little to me. Is this the accreditation I'm looking for?
I try to judge people on impressions, and I still have mixed results. I'll find more when I see her again in two weeks.
Peter
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My teacher has - "Higher Ed.Dip Grade 8 Distinction" which means little to me. Is this the accreditation I'm looking for?I try to judge people on impressions, and I still have mixed results. I'll find more when I see her again in two weeks.
She's inadequately qualified for the long haul, but maybe go with her for a few lessons and in the meantime research a local-ish teacher who might be better.
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Super, thank you.
This has been a useful thread for me.
Peter
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I am probably guilty of putting on too much rosin. Violin doesn't sound good? Add rosin. Bow doesn't feel right? Add rosin. Pants too tight? Add rosin. Having a bad day? Add rosin. Don't like the sound? Add a different kind of rosin to see if it works. Does it play better? No? Add more rosin. Bored? I can always add rosin to my bow. 
Never seems to have any negligible effect for me in adding rosin unless I really am low and then the strings grip a bit better. It's a relief to hear Pierre's views on this. I think I mainly blame the rosin on other issues. For me it's like putting motor honey in a blown engine most of the time, although some rosin has a different gripping characteristic that works better for me.
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Alf,My teacher has - "Higher Ed.Dip Grade 8 Distinction" which means little to me. Is this the accreditation I'm looking for?
I try to judge people on impressions, and I still have mixed results. I'll find more when I see her again in two weeks.
does someone that is paid to teach a musical instrument to a student require accreditation in the U.K.? In others words...do you have to get the stamp of approval from someone that you can teach before you can legally receive compensation? where does the "distinction" part play in all of it.
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Peter said
My teacher has - "Higher Ed.Dip Grade 8 Distinction" which means little to me. Is this the accreditation I'm looking for?
I try to judge people on impressions, and I still have mixed results. I'll find more when I see her again in two weeks.
She's inadequately qualified for the long haul, but maybe go with her for a few lessons and in the meantime research a local-ish teacher who might be better.
I probably overstated it a bit - I could probably give good piano lessons with my grade 8 distinction. Otoh, that's because I had two excellent teachers (they were insistent on good technique, and I insist on good technique). Others who passed grade 8 with bad teachers (it is possible) will pass on bad teachings.
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I hadn't thought about the teacher's qualifications until @Gordon Shumway mentioned it; my criteria for selection were proximity and apparent reputation (i.e. how busy they are).
I'm unsure about the legal position; I doubt if it's like medicine or engineering where you must have General Medical Council or Engineering Council registration before introducing yourself as a doctor or engineer, at least in the UK. There is a requirement for school teachers to have topped-up their degree with a Post-Graduate Certificate of Education, but training a musician may not have the same fundamental responsibilities and obligations as a teacher of schoolchildren.
Perhaps I should've waited for someone in authority to weigh in; if I'm wrong, I apologise.
Peter
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Alf,
My teacher has - "Higher Ed.Dip Grade 8 Distinction" which means little to me. Is this the accreditation I'm looking for?
I try to judge people on impressions, and I still have mixed results. I'll find more when I see her again in two weeks.
does someone that is paid to teach a musical instrument to a student require accreditation in the U.K.? In others words...do you have to get the stamp of approval from someone that you can teach before you can legally receive compensation? where does the "distinction" part play in all of it.
To clarify: they're referring to ABRSM exams, which many British music students take at beginner to upper intermediate levels. I took ABRSM piano exams (started learning in the Middle East and continued taking the exams in the US) and have a Diploma in piano performance. Grade 8 is the last numbered grade, and represents an upper-intermediate playing level. Beyond that, there are diplomas offered in performance, teaching, and conducting.
The "distinction" part refers to the person's score on an exam, sort of the equivalent of a letter grade. Distinction is the highest, followed by merit, followed by simply passing.
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gotcha. thanks Andrew.
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Peter said
My teacher has - "Higher Ed.Dip Grade 8 Distinction" which means little to me. Is this the accreditation I'm looking for?
I try to judge people on impressions, and I still have mixed results. I'll find more when I see her again in two weeks.
She's inadequately qualified for the long haul, but maybe go with her for a few lessons and in the meantime research a local-ish teacher who might be better.
I probably overstated it a bit - I could probably give good piano lessons with my grade 8 distinction. Otoh, that's because I had two excellent teachers (they were insistent on good technique, and I insist on good technique). Others who passed grade 8 with bad teachers (it is possible) will pass on bad teachings.
If it helps, I don't think Grade 8 distinction is possible on a string instrument with bad technique. Perhaps on piano, but string instruments are less forgiving. I'd agree that just passing Grade 8 would not inspire confidence in one's ability to teach. Grade 8 distinction should be enough to teach students up to Grade 4 or 5, I think.
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The teacher seems to be conflating a couple of disparate quals. Her higher ed.dip appears to have nothing to do with a music diploma and thus seems to be separate from her grade 8 distinction on the violin. But wiki says the correct way to describe it is DipHE, which she doesn't do. If I had a violin diploma, I wouldn't mention the grade 8. It would be like saying you have a BSc in geography and A-level geography.
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Gordon Shumway said
The teacher seems to be conflating a couple of disparate quals. Her higher ed.dip appears to have nothing to do with a music diploma and thus seems to be separate from her grade 8 distinction on the violin. But wiki says the correct way to describe it is DipHE, which she doesn't do. If I had a violin diploma, I wouldn't mention the grade 8. It would be like saying you have a BSc in geography and A-level geography.
Ah, thanks. I was a little confused by that, and assumed it was some kind of music education qualification separate from the Grade 8 distinction in violin performance.
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Well I think she's a very clever young lady.
This evening I tried to charm my bow with the same richness of rosin as she, and failed.
Who can perform assessments for these ABRSM grades? Perhaps in a year or two I could start looking toward initial grades, and may even then be able to approach one of the local amateur ensembles. I may be being too ambitious (again).
Peter
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Gordon Shumway said
The teacher seems to be conflating a couple of disparate quals. Her higher ed.dip appears to have nothing to do with a music diploma and thus seems to be separate from her grade 8 distinction on the violin. But wiki says the correct way to describe it is DipHE, which she doesn't do. If I had a violin diploma, I wouldn't mention the grade 8. It would be like saying you have a BSc in geography and A-level geography.
Ah, thanks. I was a little confused by that, and assumed it was some kind of music education qualification separate from the Grade 8 distinction in violin performance.
I don't know for sure. I was going to come back on earlier and qualify everything I said, but my machine refused to boot up (I MUST learn how to install Linux!). Anyway I'm back now.
Who knows what she means? She may have started a general purpose music degree, for which she'd play her violin. Then she may have quit after two years with a higher ed diploma instead. There are various possibilities.
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This evening I tried to charm my bow with the same richness of rosin as she, and failed.
No, heed Pierre's advice that it was probably only necessary just the once.
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Thanks, Alf,
Are you trying to do a dual-boot with Windows? They hate each other on every level.
I will ask her when we meet next, and also her recommendations for grading.
Yes, I guess the hair is now saturated; she did in 30 seconds what I took a week to do when I re-haired my broken / repaired bow. It's a little like being amazed by the weapons instructor who tears a rifle apart in front of you and then after a time you can do the same thing, hopefully without losing skin or jamming the cocking springs.
Always install Linux after Windows, and don't mess with grub.
Peter
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All I've attempted, after repartitioning, is running a linux msi. Nothing happened that I can recall. When I say I must learn to install it, I just mean that I hate Windows.
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I say msi, in fact the file I was trying to install is called "ubuntu-16.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso"
You can always wipe your bow on a dry cloth, Peter (I've got microfibre and thick yellow cotton dusters - that was what people used before microfibres were invented), if you want to get rid of excess rosin and put on a sparing amount. Or just wipe it and then play until you feel it needs rosining.
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Whew.
I've not seen that before, but I'll try it. I suppose the same cloth I use for the violin would be unsuitable, or else you'd have said so? It certainly makes sense to remove any non-adhered rosin, which would only find its way onto the violin.
Forget Ubuntu 16, it's fallen off support. Download 18.04 which is the current long-term support version, or 19.10 if you're feeling adventurous. Version 20 can't be far away. Are you using the right stuff to build a bootable install volume from the iso? Use Rufus
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Install Windows; install VirtualBox in windows; install Linux in VirtualBox. Job done.
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Jim Dunleavy said
Install Windows; install VirtualBox in windows; install Linux in VirtualBox. Job done.
That's certainly the safest option, and ideal for occasional use but I wonder about the performance overhead the VB system imposes on the OS running inside it.
What's your take on rosin dosage and management, Jim?
Peter
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