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So much great stuff has already been said but I'll add something else too...
Enjoy the journey of it. With a 4 year old, a second on the way, grad school, and a job that requires too much time - practice and therefore progress is slow at best for me. I'm sure you have your own commitments and, in my case, it's really easy to get frustrated by not progressing faster/better. But I still force myself to step back and enjoy the challenge and reward of getting to learn such a very cool instrument.
Just enjoy the challenge. And enjoy the company of some great musicians and great people at Fiddlerman.











I was 68 when I began for the 1st time to learn a musical instrument. Things did not go swimmingly with the violin but in Nov 2013 I bought an inexpensive mandolin and at our one year anniversary things are beginning to come together. I am half way through my 70th year. I am learning tunes, restoring an antique bowl back mandolin and having fun making music. NO YOU ARE NOT TOO OLD to learn to play a violin.
Octave Ray

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Hi everybody,
I'm Oscar and it gives me real happiness to see how many adults are here giving their opinion about starting to learn the violin at an a "advance age" I'm currently 30 and I have had the desire to learn to play the violin since I was like 15 but never decided to take the step until now, I have a family now and a full time job, so I understand what many of you say about not having as much time to practice as a kid but what I do have is the complete decision to learn to play the violin, is not my goal either to be a famous world class virtuoso or make a living out of playing I just want to play for myself the beautiful songs that I like, I recently purchased a violin from fiddlerman website and I'm as excited as a kid could be, I hope I can progress as fast as I can and be able to play something well enough for my family and my own entertainment soon enough and as many of you I was also concerned about being "too old" to do this but now all the positive comments I've read have sent those thoughts away and I'm more convinced now that I made a good decision.
P.D. My 5 year old daughter is going to start taking lessons too, I bought her a violin as well xD.

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Hi Again Everybody!
Well I'm just writing again to let you know that I got my Fiddlerman concert violin this Friday and I'm in love with it, its beautiful and it has just the sound I was looking for (I was looking for a violin here in my city like from more than 6 months ago and all that I found were just garbage) I don't know if I mention it before but I'm from Mexico and a familiar was the one who made me the favor to bring me the violins (mine and my daughter's) on a trip he made. Anyways I was going to tell you that I started playing it, just playing the open strings because I don't know how to play it yet but even that it was just noise I felt like if I was playing Beethoven's 5th symphony hahahaha, I've been practicing a lot on how to bow, how to grab the bow, how to play the open strings with some youtube videos trying to learn the position of the bow without looking at it and trying to make a good sound haha so yeah this has been my experience so far I hope I can come back with more news on my progress
P.D. My daughter loved his violin too she's also practicing with me and amazingly she learns so fast!!! She wants to play it all the time


















@oscar07 - WELCOME - y buena suerte desde el extremo nor-oueste de escocia! LOL you are NEVER too old to start dude !
I, as all our members here, wish you total enjoyment on your journey - you have a good violin/fiddle in your hands there - enjoy and share your learning experience ! And never hesitate to ask questions - there is no such thing as a "stupid question"...
Cheers, Bill
I seriously recommend not copying my mistakes. D'oh -
Please make your own, different mistakes, and help us all learn :-)

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Thanks for all your comments, I do have a question:
The excersises I've been doing are just for the open strings but I've been trying to make some notes using my left hand fingers and for some reason I find it extremely difficult to get a clean sound, when I play the open strings I can get a nice decent clean sound out of them but as soon as I try to use a finger on any of the strings I get a very scratchy out of tune sound why is this happening? am I not pressing hard enough on the string? and I doing it on the wrong position?
Thanks for all the help!











...hmmm many reasons - I'll go back to my beginner days - "out of tune" is "normal" until you get the fingering correct - don't worry about that. Screechy and scratchy is different. What I did find was that open string bowing was OK - I found the same once I stopped a string on the fingerboard. I "uncovered" two things -
(1) The open string has a "really solid" endpoint at the nut. Under your finger, it's a bit "softer" and a bit more "damped". The open string will always "ring louder and clearer" (for want of a better description) than a stopped string. The pad of your finger is not as solid, or hard, as the open string passing over the nut.
It is "very easy" ( LOL - sort of ) to bow repeatedly on the open strings. With a "fingered string" - well - what I found - was - I had to be "conscious" of what I was doing - play an open string "less hard" - sure - it will end up screeching.
I am aware of the "open string" sound now - it can often be "out of context" (well depending on the style of music and the particular piece you're playing) - and I sometimes feel it is "not right" - or have to very intentionally play it "softer"
(2) Bowing - it can be very easy to "slightly hit" more than one string at once- you may not be playing a "full double stop" intentionally - but if one side of your finger is touching an adjacent string, and the bow passes over it - you get this strange scratchy/buzzing sound. On a four-string bowed-instrument there are 7 "planes" your bow should move in - on the G, the D, the A, the E and three more - where you intentionally play (not necessarily open) two adjacent strings at the same time.... that MAY just be what you are (un-intentionally) doing....
It is TOTALLY impossible for me to be specific about this - it comes with practice - but I kind of think the way I cured it was to be "a bit more aggressive" with my bowing - none of this "gentle touch" that makes the open strings ring out - get a bit more "attack" into it.... of course - NOW - to my ear - I find the open string sound often too resonant and present compared to the rest of the notes I'm playing in a piece - of course - you can play the same note on the next lower string a bit further up - and then it "blends" better.
One of these days I'll master higher positions on the strings - getting there !
I seriously recommend not copying my mistakes. D'oh -
Please make your own, different mistakes, and help us all learn :-)

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Thanks a lot for all your tips Bill, but what I actually meant was that I think I wasn't getting the fingers on the right positions, I mean I think now I got the first finger position right, and now I'm doing some exercises for it so yeah that's what I meant when I said that I was getting "out of tune" sounds from the strings because I wasn't on the right spots, because now that I think I got the first one right, the notes sound waaayy much better lol!
Anyways thank you very much for all your help!
Cheers!











Cool. That just comes with practice ! LOL We all play "out of tune" to a lesser or greater extent - getting the finger position repeatable to within fractions of a mm is not easy. I don't recall who said this - it was a very famous violinist though - "of course I play out of tune, it's just that I correct so fast, no-one notices" - or words to that effect....
It gets worse if you have different instruments with different nut-to-bridge lengths ( my EV is about 7 mm longer nut-to bridge than my two acoustics - and the bridge position is fixed ) so my fingering has to be marginally different - but somehow, you just get used to it - as you gain familiarity with each instrument, you just kind of "adapt" automatically.
I haven't done this, although I do have a clip-on "Snark" tuner - but some folks do use that ( other clip on tuners are available - LOL ! ) during their initial learning. I neither advocate, nor disapprove of the idea - I guess it can be useful. Just a thought.
I seriously recommend not copying my mistakes. D'oh -
Please make your own, different mistakes, and help us all learn :-)

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Fiddlerman, Yes I love my violin you guys picked me a really nice one and it sound its just magnificient, and my daughter loves hers as well, although I think I got her a big size for her, so she will have to wait until she can use it well, she does practice her bowing though :p
cdennyb, Actually that's what I have been doing, the excersices that I've been doing I watch the video and play along to try to get the same notes and I think it's working
Mark_1, Thanks I will keep posting my advances with the fiddle, who knows maybe I even post a video
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