Thanks a lot for the answers guys;

Fiddlerman; here in my country there's no such thing as trial lessons lol all of them require that you pay up front for the lessons haha but like I said with the first one I was paying more for less and I think that 1 lesson a week would take me a long time to improve that's why I looked for another option where I could take more lessons at a more reasonable price and well I'm gonna start with that teacher this weekend taking 2 lessons a week.

Uzi; you're totally right there's not a perfect method at all, all of them teaches you something good so yeah I will give suzuki method a chance and I will complement it with others like crickboom or kreutzer etudes for more technical stuff, and well I hope that teacher help me to improve my technique

I will come back to share my experience on how I'm doing it

Thanks!

Fiddlestix said

oscar07 said
Thanks a lot for the answers guys;

 I think that 1 lesson a week would take me a long time to improve that's why I looked for another option where I could take more lessons at a more reasonable price and well I'm gonna start with that teacher this weekend taking 2 lessons a week.

 

IMO, improving comes with practicing more hours each day, rather than the "one" hour a day that most people try to follow and practice is, "FREE".

One can take all the lessons they can handle, but if we don't practice what we've learned in those lessons, then we've wasted $$ and .

 

Ken.

I know that and I do it I practice every day at least 1 hr, what I meant with no improving from 1 lesson a week was that even that the teacher saw that I did the exercises that we were practicing we didn't move forward to other things, she didn't taught me new things or try to advance more even that I think I was making a good progress.

While some comment has been given about method (both of my violin teachers used their own method), I think the big thing in education is the connection between the student and teacher. Not everyone will speak words that you understand or knows how to explain what they do well. (Sadly, naturally gifted students rarely make good teachers.) We might be discussing music in this context, but think back to anything else that you struggled to learn or wanted to improve.

Personally, I went through 3 teachers before I found one that had the patience, attitude, and communication skill that I needed to learn to drive a semi-truck. The first teacher yelled and screamed at every mistake, but I was so new I didn't even know what I was doing wrong. The second teacher was gruff and direct with instructions but gave me no feedback to let me know if I was doing it right or wrong. The 3rd teacher was quick to point out faults, but just as quick to point out (and explain) correct operation. Thus I was encouraged to do the right thing and discouraged against doing the wrong thing.

You may have thought you were doing well with the first teacher, but there may have been some underlying error to be corrected that they weren't making clear to you. They may also be stuck in a rut and not really listening to your playing. Let's pretend that you jumped ahead and practiced Lesson 1, 2, & 3 that first day. Instead of approving your progress and continuing with Lesson 4, they trod along like a plow horse to Lesson 2. Again, you have to just get into the lessons before you can know whether they are a good teacher or bad or just not good for you. 

Thanks for the reminder and suggestions. Likely error was exactly that: my form was poor. I rigged up a shoulder rest of 3 new kitchen sponges so I can support the fiddle more comfortably without my left hand. I can now play an entire lesson from the new book before my forearm starts cramping. Hand cramp is substantially less. It might just take time and patience to adapt at this point.

My thick fingers require some extra adjustment. I ALWAYS press two strings simultaneously so I have to press D-A to leave the E free. "Twinkle, Twinkle", "Mary's Lamb", and "Jingle Bells" are technically accurate, I think, but not comfortable. Pinkie is weak. Oh the joy of starting over!

Hello again everybody, well I come back to tell you about the new lessons:

1. I had some doubts about the suzuki method because I had the prejudice of being something for kids, nothing more far from reality, yes the first 5 or 6 pieces are like kids songs but the rest of the pieces from there are just really challenging, after taking 1 month of lessons with this method I'm currently on minuet 2 by J.S Bach and let me tell you that I've been struggling with this piece, it's really not a kids song at all hahaha.

2. I've been struggling with my left hand to get a good intonation I have really long fingers so sometimes it's really difficult for me to bend my fingers and get the right notes specially on the low position for the 2 finger, lately by practicing the minuet 2 I've been having some fingers and hand pains :/ because of the difficulty of bending my fingers, I hope this is something related to this new movements for my fingers and that eventually those pains will disappear...

3. About the new teacher and lessons well there's good things a bad things, the good things are that I feel like I'm really improving, my teacher tells me when I'm making a bad note so I can correct it, he does have 18 years of experience playing the violin and he plays really well although he told me he almost didn't have a professional education on the violin, he said he has taken lessons from several teachers (including concertinos from our city orchestra), the bad things are that the lessons are not individual so a very in deep teaching is not really present there (although for the price I think it's something you have to sacrifice) and that he almost never tells me anything about my "technique" I mean he hasn't tell me if I'm bowing right or if my posture is correct or not, I assume that he hasn't tell me anything because I'm doing it right lol (at least I hope so)

Well that's pretty much what's new about my progress with the fiddle, I keep practicing at least 1 or 2 hrs daily I still have some issues that I need to improve on my bowing and fingering techniques but I really hope that with time I will get better.

Thanks for all the comments and good vibes  

@coolpinkone,

I might upload a video to get some advices from you guys, just need to have some free time lol

@Daniel_Shaped_Object,

Suzuki method it's oriented to kids as it's basic goal because it looks to get kids involved into music and the teaching progress it's based on how a kid learns to speak, when I started taking private lessons I was taking lessons with a professional violinist from my city orchestra and the lessons were good but I have this feeling that she was trying to teach me as if she was trying to teach someone who wants to live out of this which is not my goal, I don't look to be a professional violinist I just want to learn to play it well enough to play music that I want to play myself, so those lessons were taking a very boring development because we were focusing too much on developing a perfect technique, now that's not bad at all, but I guess that's something you should focus more with someone who's making a career as a musician and not too much into someone who only wants to play the instrument for the taste of it, I might be completely wrong but I would have enjoy those lessons if at the same time she was trying to develop my technique she would complemented it with easy music pieces that kept me interested and proud of being able to play some actual music, which is what its happening right now with the suzuki method and the new teacher, I'm learning easy songs at the same time that I develop my technique, now the bowing technique its not improving as fast as it might be with the other teacher because in suzuki method what the student tries to learn first it's how to create a beautiful sound and yes the technique comes later but at the beginning it keeps you motivated because you're learning to play music instead of boring, repetitive scales and exercises, again this is not a bad thing but I think they are different approaches for different type of students, perhaps if I was younger and I was studying a music career I would prefer the other teaching method. 

So after all this long explanation I guess what I'm trying to say it's go ahead and give the suzuki method a chance I'm pretty sure you will enjoy it as much as I'm doing it. 

Oh about what you mention to feel free to ask my teacher about guidance I do that I've ask him if I'm bowing correctly and stuff like that and he does give me some feedback, I've improved my intonation quite a lot with his critics, what I meant when I said he almost doesn't give me any feedback it's mostly because the lessons are in group so he can't focus 100% on every student but he does corrects me when I do something wrong so yeah I'm improving my technique as well just not as fast as I would be on a 100% individual class. 

@Uzi,

Yes I totally agreed with you I know the learning curve behaves like that, you advance really fats at some points and then you feel  like your stuck but I'm 100% determinated to improve and yes some times I feel like I don't wanna practice at all, specially on moments when I feel down or sad but once I get the violin out and start playing it I forget about all the problems and time just flies, before I notice I've been playing for hours and I feel really good

Bottom line is I'm really happy that I decided to go for it about learning the violin I enjoy it like you guys have no idea, I love my Fiddlerman Concert Violin, I'm in love with its sound so thanks @Fiddlerman  for choosing such a wonderful instrument for me it worths every penny I spent on it.

Thanks to all of you for your great comments and I'm happy to be part of this community and we'll be in touch