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Turning over a new page.
Why do I not recall seeing orchestras turning pages in sites like You Tube?
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April 25, 2014 - 4:52 pm

Who turns violin pages in an orchestra? (Sometimes piano guys have a helper but I think piano players turn pages better anyhow without help.)
Do people ever share a stand? Who turns pages?
Is there an accepted height for a music stand (and the music it will support) ? Is the top of the score at eye level?

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April 25, 2014 - 5:55 pm

I may be wrong, but I believe there are two player's to a stand and the violinist on the left turns the page's.
From what I can tell, it varies on height, some are lower than others. I think cello player's have lower stands.

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.....or.in the case of us oldies, the height of the stand is proportional to the reduction in eyesight.
Sometimes I need to tape my stand to my forehead.

I am amazed at how old people of my age are.....

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April 25, 2014 - 7:05 pm
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Oliver said

Who turns violin pages in an orchestra? (Sometimes piano guys have a helper but I think piano players turn pages better anyhow without help.)
Do people ever share a stand? Who turns pages?
Is there an accepted height for a music stand (and the music it will support) ? Is the top of the score at eye level?

As Ken said, there are 2 players per stand in the string sections and most often the player on the inside turns. Left for violinists and right for violas, cellos and basses. Fact of the matter is that it's closer for the guy on the right to get to the page but both tradition and the fact that the audience can see the outside players thus looks better to see them playing continuously. Even though for concerts the outside player usually turns, it's common for even outside players to be kind and turn first so to speak out of respect for the other guy......
Since many orchestras rotate now a days, except for the first 2 or 3 stands, everyone gets a chance to be the page turner except primary concert masters and section leaders.

As far as stand height is concerned, it differs from player to player. I like to have it low so I can have contact with other sections in the orchestra. Many people are so glued to their parts that they need to have it high be able to see the conductor in their peripheral vision. I also think it's nice for the audience to be able to see the players rather than the music stand.

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April 25, 2014 - 8:44 pm
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Cool question... good answers. I feel informed. :)

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April 25, 2014 - 11:54 pm

Me too (informed https://fiddlerman.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif

Footnote ...... there is a hidden motive to my music stand height question.

If I set my stand at "normal", I risk losing my chin/Do you get neck tension grip when looking down. So, I can not let my gaze to the music be down hill.

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April 26, 2014 - 6:57 am
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:)
Usually Oliver, looking down gives players a better grip. When you say look down are you referring to changing your physical position at all? For example, does your arm go down as well?

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April 26, 2014 - 3:06 pm

I would say a general leaning starting from the waist. Not a lot.
I also just realized that, at times, I get the violin to block the music.

I probably have trouble because I use very little chin pressure (?)

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