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ABitRusty said your great on intonation on this. sounds in tune. in the last video you were good too..there were some minor off notes on the B part but youve corrected that here to my hearing. even in the last video is wasnt way off.
After watching the video a thousand more times it's obvious that some of the issues I'm having come from a lack of bow control. The worst is when I'm sliding the bow along the strings or playing too close to the bridge because my technique stinks.
I'm starting to work on that but, as is typical, whenever I concentrate on one thing, everything else gets all wonky at the same time. I have to keep telling myself that I've only been doing this for 4+ months and these kinds of things are expected.
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@RDP -
Keep working on it - maybe try to look at your progress in some way other than in 'months'.
You played "Inisheer" on your violin - that's a GREAT milestone!
Everyone messes up, because it doesn't take much to screw up bowing - all it takes is a little physical tension in one or 2 (of a zillion) spots, a worry, or even a feeling of excitement, to throw everything off.
AND, just like with any other serious training, every stroke you bow crooked (every time it happens) probably takes at least 10, CORRECTLY drawn, bow strokes to over-ride 'one' crooked stroke in your brain & muscle memory.
So, until you can bow straight while watching yourself, you can't hope to bow straight while you are looking at music notation.
You can practice bowing on Inisheer. If you can't memorize all of it, you can memorize 3 notes of it at a time.
Try placing your middle bowing fingers lower down the side of the frog & keep your index finger wrapped lightly around the stick - all your fingers can't help guide the bow if they are just resting on top of the stick.
Now, for bow arm movement, practice 3 notes of Inisheer at a time - repeating them several times while watching/making your bow travel straight across the strings (don't look at the sheet music). Do it as slow as necessary.
Video record yourself watching the bow travel.
IF you can't judge if you are bowing straight (while watching) - the idea of sticking plastic straws in the F holes for reference, while you play, is pretty ingenious.
You can always make the choice to change your bow hold, down the road - a year or 2 from now, once your body parts & brain are better at combining the complex movements/adjustments you are asking of them.
Laura, at Red Desert has this GREAT video that explains how your fingers can help steer the bow.
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ELCBK said You can always make the choice to change your bow hold, down the road - a year or 2 from now, once your body parts & brain are better at combining the complex movements/adjustments you are asking of them. Laura, at Red Desert has this GREAT video that explains how your fingers can help steer the bow.
I checked out her colle movement exercises video. My "jelly fish" is more like "dying tuna" and my "tree frog" fingers definitely need more Kermit (on) The Frog.
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Fiddlerman said
Funny to hear it played NOT as a canon.
It's actually a very popular wedding piece. Not that I'm into playing a violin at weddings.
Yes it is. I've played enough weddings to know that. 😁🤣 It's a cellists nightmare. They play the same four measures over and over. The most difficult part for them is keeping track of how many times they've played it to end it at the right time. We tend to help them out with that part.
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Fiddlerman said
Funny to hear it played NOT as a canon.
It's actually a very popular wedding piece. Not that I'm into playing a violin at weddings.
Yes it is. I've played enough weddings to know that. 😁🤣 It's a cellists nightmare. They play the same four measures over and over. The most difficult part for them is keeping track of how many times they've played it to end it at the right time. We tend to help them out with that part.
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Doing a LOT of bowing and concentrating on my bow hold and doing the Colle movements with my fingers. My neighbors probably hate me by now but I discovered that Song of the Wind is perfect for practicing this if you play it with long bows. Hours and hours of:
A, B, C#, D, E, E, E, E, F, D, G, F, E; F, D, G, F, E...
When I switch to something else, even when playing it slowly with long bows, I lose the ability to do the Colle movement with my fingers. Bach's Minuet No. 1 is impossible to play with any sort of Colle and flexible bow hold. Don't know why other than it's still a very new technique for me and that's taking my concentration off the music.
There is a bonus, my pinkie reach has returned (albeit unreliably) AND I can now often hear the difference between C# and C natural even when I'm not playing them. Which tells me that my ear is being retrained after the tuner fiasco messed me up.
Intonation is still holding good too although I've developed a lot of squeaks and squawks I didn't have before. Typical NooB stuff and I'm sure I'll get beyond that at some point.
All in all, I'm looking forward again. Which is a good thing.
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