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Picklefish
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@pky "Suzuki method is not irreplaceable"

GASP!.........bunny-headbang

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There are plenty of violists here in any case.
When you get a chance let me know what problems you are having on violaman.com

Thanks

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The fiddle does not need electricity nor any fossil fuels but its own hard shell and a little bit of horsehair and hardened sap.  If David Suzuki put a utube video of creating power through the use of fiddleing with himself the world may really listen! that would be amazing eh! lol

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There are plenty of other violinists who have done it just fine. I'm not sure that this is David Suzuki 's specialty.

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I don't think, David Suzuki play's the violin. He's not responsible for the "Suzuki" method.

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I wasnt gonna say anything! lol too funny!

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For all we know, he might play the violin though.....

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I was always under the impression that the Suzuki Method is primarily aimed at young children. The idea appears to be the total immersion of the child at a young age into a musical culture and environment. It is definitely not a "learn it on your own" method as it requires the child be connected to others, i.e. a teacher, other child students, very supportive parents who take an active role in the child's musical environment and learning, performances, and regular listening to recorded music and skilled musicians.

 

It appears to have a wide range of both praises and criticisms too numerous to discuss here and are easy enough for one to find via Google search.

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You are correct. And its number 1 criticism is its too rigid approach. But, all criticisms reflect the individual teachers and not the method itself. A teacher makes or breaks the experience for the child or student. Adults can use its core phylosophies though to their great advantage when trying to learn just about anything. And any music can be used, I just think the suzuki books are fun to play.

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I dislike the negative publicity that Suzuki itself has received and as Robert mentioned above, a lot of the success or lack thereof has to do with the teacher.
I don't know that much about Suzuki but it encourages young people to play. That in itself can't be bad. It might be that there is not enough emphasis on learning to read sheet music in the beginning at the young age when the brain is like a sponge and ripe for soaking up information but I'm not sure about that.

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It sounds to me like the Suzuki method is an "immersion technique". The idea being that the child starting from a young age is immersed in a musical culture, at school, at home, etc. and heavily supported by everyone around him. I would imagine that "immersion method" might work for almost any subject, painting, sculpture, the sciences, literature, etc. It seems however that it is better suited for teaching children starting from a very young age than for adults who are already developed and set in their ways.

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The basic tenants of learning music in my opinion are as follows. Listen to the music you wish to learn to get it into your head. Learn the fingerings, isolating the tricky or hard parts. Learn the bowings, slurs, ups, downs etc. Put them together at a slow tempo that allows you enough time to move your fingers accurately, play in tune and still bow the bowings. Gradually increase the tempo while maintaining the above.
So what is different about the suzuki method? It teaches you to relate music to kids in a way that engages them and keeps them motivated.
So what about any of that doesnt work for adults, in my opinion nothing. As an adult you ideally should immerse yourself in the music and not sequester yourself to your basement to sort it out yourself. Join a jam, find friendly musicians to play with, and our little forum here. Yeah, its not official suzuki but its not wrong either. I dont think.

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I would have loved to try this method... Probably too late???  Not sure .... I have the first book but without a teacher... I was lost... Maybe I should get the cd?  I like the conversation going on... I like to hear all the input and opinions....

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@coolpinkone: There are a lot video clips on youtube you could watch. Piklefish posted one good one.

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Picklefish said
. Join a jam, find friendly musicians to play with, and our little forum here. Yeah, its not official suzuki but its not wrong either. I dont think.

Oh yes I agree.  Join a community orchestra, or join or start a small group. Play along with others. It is a big help and will motivate you a great deal. I joined a community orchestra and found it to be a major help.  I advanced a great deal since I joined. Had I merely stuck to playing home by myself I would not have progressed nearly as fast.

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I would love to join an orchestra, but not all people are as lucky as crazymotive. Any way, I talked to my violin teacher yesterday, she is willing to teach an adult class if the board of a children orchestra agree. I am very excited about the idea and I hope our dream will come true!

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@pky  I sure hope that dream comes true for you. Fingers crossed.. otherwise it is okay to be part of the World Wide FM orchestra right.  :)

Cheers and good luck.

Toni

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August 10, 2013 - 12:03 am
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Did you or someone you know learn to play the violin via tbe Suzuki method?

  • I did not learn using the Suzuki method(67% : 6 votes)
  • I have no idea what the Suzuki method it.(22% : 2 votes)
  • I learned to play using the Suzuki method.(11% : 1 vote)
  • I use the Suzuki books but not the method.(0% : 0 votes)
Total Voters: 9

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@coolpinkone:

Yes My dream is going to come true! the director said, "Let's do it" so now my teacher and her students (hopefully there will be quite a few of us) will have to decide what music to play, how often, what time, etc.... Just hope we don't have to perform at the end of each semester.

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@fiddlerman:

That Suzuki post should have another choice:

using the Suzuki book but not truly the method. My teacher uses the books but applies knowledge and methods she gathers over the years as a students as well as a teacher.

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