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@mouse and others... The mandolin has been a recent discussion. This may interest some. Its presented by a violinist. Its some ideas about playing mandolin after learning violin...the differences that may not seem apparent.. things that can help your violin playing because of trying things on mandolin.



Shapes are indeed interesting. He says there are 4 shapes because you have 4 fingers. He's not 100% correct.
There are four shapes because there are 4 unique strings. Mathematicians know this as Group Theory.
On guitar there are 5 shapes (Google CAGED) because there are 5 unique strings (the 6th string, E, is not unique).
On uke some people try to use the guitar's 5 shapes (Google CAGFD) as a transposition of the guitar's, but they are wrong to - the uke doesn't have the equivalent of the guitar's A string, and the resulting so-called D shape replicates the C shapes.
The tenor guitar is also tuned in fifths, and triad chords are worth looking at (they are more common on violin than using all 4 strings, and they only use 3 shapes). This video is very sweet (I haven't yet found a part 2): -
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Here's what we mean by three shapes on violin (I didn't watch all of the mando video. Sorry if I repeat him)
Let's call (on D A and E strings)
shape 1 = DAF# or DAF (D major and minor with D string as tonic)
shape 2 = DBG or DBbG (G major and minor with E string as tonic)
shape 3 = D#BF# or DBF# (B major and B minor with A string as tonic)
If we use all 4 strings, we have two triads side by side (by dint of the fifths tuning, which guitar and uke don't share): -
E.g. the Bach BWV1001 prelude in G minor - the opening chord is GDBbG.
The GDA strings are shape 1 and the DAE strings are shape 2.
Using all four strings, you'll see there are only four possible shapes: -
1+2
1+3
2+3
3+1
(I mapped all this out years ago in a notebook, but I don't have it any more, so the above is from memory. If I've made any mistakes, I'll edit it). The best thing you can do is map it all out yourself.
That's how to keep grandkids quiet, Emily!
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@Gordon Shumway -
🤣 My Grandkids would throw that at me... or just stop talking to me altogether.
I went back, with fresh eyes, and looked at the original video.
Pretty sure now, I misunderstood - think he's just talking about shifting hand positions, using different fingers, not 'chord shapes'.
Thanks, for your info on chords!














Reviving this thread!
I still think, even if you only play the violin, it's worth checking out what/how people play tunes you love on other instruments! I ALWAYS pick up interesting ideas!
One of the few Bluegrass tunes I LOVE...
"Lonesome Moonlight Waltz" (Bill Monroe) - Chord Lesson from Magnus Zetterlund!
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