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I'm working on getting better at recognizing musical notes and chords. Do you know any good activities or tools to help with this? I've been using ToneScholar, which is more about fun learning than fancy fiddle shows. But I'm determined to get better at both listening and playing, even if I don't have a lot of time to practice. Your suggestions mean a lot to me!
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I havent used tone scholar but ive used apps to augment regular practice. I used them when i couldnt get my instrument and play. Not so much on violin but alot when learning guitar fretboard layout.
for ear training..
checkout fiddlehed on youtube.. specifically for CALL AND RESPONSE type training. Its an excellent way to practice new tunes. Its a method of repeating back small musical phrases... or playing parts of a tune while someone else plays the other. you can use that method with a recording. like play an mp3 of some tune but only concentrate on a phrase at a time. once you have that phrase ..swap to another phrase and only play that. then piece it all together. He on fiddlehed can explain it better.
Listening to the music you intend on playing is one of the biggest helps. listen till you can hum or sing it. I assume we arent talking about ear training for classical type music.
which brings up the fancy fiddle shows... sometimes it takes listening to those.
As far as recognizing individual notes ..like someone plays an F# and you know its an F#.. things like that work themselves out by either practicing scales a bunch or playing tunes a bunch. It starts to become easier and youll just know where the intervals are in a melody with time. So a mixture of scales, tunes, and arpeggios would be a good routine. warmup with scales. play or practice a tune..work in arpeggios after a bit.
When you practice arpeggios youre practicing broken chords.
others will provide links im sure. theres alot on just this forum. i cant remember where it all is.
hope that helps some...it just takes time.
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@invisiblewasp -
I think it's wonderful you are working on 'ear-training'!!!
ToneScholar looks great... at 1st glance - but I'm always skeptical when I see 'try' for free, then I can't easily find how much it will cost.
🤔... they poo-poo 'Interval' training(?) To me, it depends on the kind of interval training (I'm not for just memorizing). I believe it's important to learn to judge the distance between pitches by hearing & playing (intervals). You can check out the Intervals Thread (tips & suggestions).
Can you read standard music notation? ...'ToneScholar' won't help you with that.
One thing I'm sorry I didn't do right from the beginning - say the name of the note (or chord) OUT LOUD when you play it. There's a discussion about this in the Learning Notes Thread. I regret not doing this, because I can play what I hear, but if you ask me 'what' I'm playing - I have to stop and think about what string I'm on.
...come to think of it, wouldn't be a bad idea if I at least spent some time saying the name of notes & chords - NOW.
Thanks for reminding me! 🤗
- Emily
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@invisiblewasp ,
There is a free website called tonedear , as in toned ear, that has effective exercises.
On the landing page, click on intervals.
The site will quiz you. It will play two tones and you must determine the interval, such as major third, or perfect fifth, or tritone, etc. Be patient and just work on it a few minutes a day. Over months, you will train your ear. I recommend translating the tones you hear into solfège for even more benefit.
This is similar to our studies in conservatory ear training and music theory decades ago. We’d practice in the listening lab, and occasionally the professor would give spot quizzes on intervals or sight-singing in solfège. Very effective.
Just to keep my ear sharp, I visit this site occasionally if I’m a bit sleepless.
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I thought it would be handy to recognise intervals (minor 3rd, major 3rd, 4th, 6th etc) for finding notes on the fiddle. I used this tool to test myself on them - you can start out with just a couple of intervals and add others as you learn them. It's free to use.
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Wow, super helpful ya'll! Btw, I found the link for the app I was talking about. Please let me know if it's of use to anyone! (https://tonescholar.com/blog)
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Apps are fine and all, but before we had them, we used the first notes of familiar tunes to identify/practice intervals. Nothing needed besides your brain. For example:
Minor 2nd: Theme from Jaws
Major 2nd: Happy Birthday
Minor 3rd: Greensleves / What Child Is This
Major 3rd: When the Saints Go Marching In
Perfect 4th: Here Comes the Bride
Flat 5th / Tritone: Simpson's Theme
Perfect 5th: Twinkle Twinkle Little Star
Minor 6th: The Entertainer
Major 6th: My Bonnie Lies Over the Ocean
Minor 7th: Star Trek Theme
Major 7th: Take On Me (chorus)
Octave: Somewhere Over the Rainbow
You can come up with your own list based on songs that you know well...
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Thanks! While navigating the ToneScholar app, I chanced upon an article that delves into functional ear training. Do you think this approach is as effective as the one you recommended? The article is accessible via this link: https://tonescholar.com/blog/f.....-explained.
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