This video, by Ryan Leach, might really help people who want to try to remember the basic modes.
I admit I was still needing to look them up - this seems easier to remember if I just think of which scale degrees of each mode is flatted... duh.
...hope I didn't have this already buried in this thread somewhere. 🥴
whatever clicks for someone is the way. I think some of these things just come down to memorization. Then finding songs or tunes that are examples of each and listening a bunch in a more analyzing way. Seems to be how alot of the theory stuff just is... spending time trying to memorize, then playing it, then listening for it in favorite songs. Decide if a song is in or uses sections in a particular mode... check resources to see if correct.. if wrong figure out why. over and over until stuff starts to stick. I say that feeling confident about mixo and major tunes. possibly dorian. but really in the grand scheme on fiddle hasnt got in the way. its great to go after but as you need things they tend to work themselves into the mixolydian. 😁 opinion. someone just cringed.. 🤣
But theres more than one way to look at it. the scale way you just shared may be easier on violin and more on the fly friendly when you get it memorized. you dont have the conversion step of thinking about what step in a mjor scale a certain mode falls...mixo is just flat the 7. on the flipside of that you have to memorize..flat the 7
great stuff you find and share and fun to discuss.. more! 🙂
I LOVE THIS THREAD!
Well, here's some VERY COOL sounding Modes - that you probably won't memorize! Click on the links to see & hear the scales, plus more info.
This fabulous site of Ian Ring's could be my lifelong playground!
(considered 1st Mode)
When you hear them all played - HALLOWEEN... beautiful!
Check out music by Ian Ring!
I don't want to get away from the Modes Topic - but want to shed a little light on ways to think of the Enigmatic scale for improvisation.
mDecks Music starts by seeing it's part Altered Scale (Superlocrian Scale - ↑post #122) and part Dominant Bebop Scale (there are several Bebop scales).
He uses the Circle of 5ths.
Using Substructures of the Enigmatic Scales for improvisation.
Back to Modes and Ian Ring, LOVE the concept of Mutant Modes (Deep Scales)!
Now, when it comes to scales & modes, I find it MUCH easier to relate by keyboard, than guitar - so I've been targeting them.
...we've come a long way from the OP!
More about ancient Irish scales.
This thread has SO MUCH INFO & interesting conversations! There's still stuff in here I'm not completely clear on, but every once in a while I skim back over it & I always learn something new or understand things better about scales & modes!
This video is SO FULL of great info (too much for me to take in all at once) - there's no way to walk away from this without learning something! It's a masterclass that ties into other areas of music theory - I'll definitely have to revisit it, which is fine, but I'm not sure I'll ever be able to memorize some of these things I should.
...must be why the computer gods made bookmarks! 😁
Scales Vs Modes: What's the Difference?
Way back in like the 6th post of this thread, I mentioned I wondered what made music from the "How To Train Your Dragon" film series so great.
I finally found answers!
One reason is PENTATONIC SCALES... I had never thought of the fact they don't have any half tones - no dissonance!
...but there's more!