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What are peoples thoughts on this subject, is a mute better for practice or Electric  fiddle which can be listened to on headphones or turned down. I have new neigbours, and though they havent yet said anything, I have heard them start banging about when I practice, obviously annoyed.

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"Silent" solid electric violins are not silent. You can hear them easily, and you can produce good acoustic tone on them. You don't need phones or an amp. (your neighbours won't hear it, though)

However, electric/acoustic violins are a different matter. They are, I suppose, as loud as a regular violin.

Yehudi Menuhin swore by the value of practising with a mute. I have never bothered.

But a mute is a good way for a beginner to develop good tone, as they can develop the confidence to hammer away, as they should, without causing as much annoyance as they would without a mute.

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@stringy So sorry your situation has changed like that. I have a used Yamaha Silent violin. I am not talking about an acousic electric kr solid body electric that can be heard without an amp. This is a Yamaha Silent violin and needs the amp plugged into it to distribute the sound. It is super quiet because it needs to be hooked up to an amp. However, as the violinist, I can hear it clearly. The tone is clear. The sound, however does not travel far and I believe a truly silent violin would work. 

I am not very knowledgable of the electronics or proper terms, so please be kind with any corrections, but with my experience with this violin, in a smallish single floor ranch style house, I can play it in my livingroom and it cannot be heard in the kitchen. There is just a living room doorway, pretty much right beside where I play, a maybe 3 foot wide hall, and then the doorway to the kitchen/dining area. There are no doors to help prevent the violin from being heard. The livingroom doorway and kitchen/dining room doorway are directly across from each other, just an approximately 3 foot wide hallway separate them.

I would think that this would be a good alternative. You, as the violinist, can hear the violin just fine, but without being connected to an amp, the sound does not travel. I bought mine used. 

I think, and remember I am not techy about this and my terms may be wrong, but the gist is probably pretty accurate, with this SILENT violin, there are no pickups on the violin. The amp cord needs to be plugged in to send the sound to an amp to get the actual sound. When played without the amp, the string sounds are natural, they just do not travel much beyond your ears that are right at the violin. I hope this helps and that I am not too far off with m description.

Sure, it is not ideal or perfect, as will probably be pointed out, but, but when face with obstacles, you just do the best you can.

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Silent electric violins have a piezo-electric pickup under the bridge (quartz emits a tiny electric voltage when compressed). You use ordinary strings.

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How Often Do You Have To Practice Thread

In this thread, Fiddlerman recommends a heavy metal mute if you need to play quietly. 

Seems you might want to try that first and if that doesn't work out - then invest in your 2nd option. 

Tough decision... especially as we get older, so much depends on the joy we get from playing - how it sounds is everything. 

Sad situation. 😔 

Maybe you could talk to your neighbors to find out if they could be accepting of a certain time of the evening that you could practice normally? 

There's a chance you might be pleasantly surprised. 🤔

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Yes, the only problem with those heavy steel mutes is that they need to fit your bridge. If they don't fit very well, IOW, the bridge is too thick, they can fall off if you're not very careful and damage the top.
I usually give them a nice tap downwards to secure them.

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Bare metal - forget it.

Artino - a pig to get on first time, and there is a risk that the fight will damage your violin; and if you need visibility, that is impaired too.

I'd suggest that a so-called "ultra heavy rubber practice mute" is adequate. They vary a lot, but often you can get an idea of the weight from the listings (not that there's a 100% correlation between weight and muting) and they are cheap.

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Though I know that they were not great for my bridge, the thick metal one is the one I used the most simply because at times, I would play in the middle of the night.

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Fiddlerman said
at times, I would play in the middle of the night.  

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@Fiddlerman said
Though I know that they were not great for my bridge, the thick metal one is the one I used the most simply because at times, I would play in the middle of the night.

  

I never heard of "in the middle of the night." How does that go?

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Reminds me of The Fly, "help me... help me!" 

Oooh - Maybe I should find a mute to use on Halloween, for my 5-string. 

 

I could scare everyone! 🤗😈 

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We include the big rubber mute in a lot of our outfits. Just remind me and I'll make sure we give you one Emily.

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