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Need help with some music reading..
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johnnyblaze
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I am learning a new fiddle tune and it has two B notes in a row.The first is a quaver facing right and the next is a quarter note facing left..Both B on the same line of music.

 

Forgive me if this is a silly question i have never come across this on a tune..

 

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John

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Are you sure the first note isn't the symbol for flat?

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Maybe Kevin guessed what you were referring to. Otherwise, you can either scan it or take a picture and post it here for us.

The direction a note faces has to do with how high or low it is. If they are above the B they usually face right like Kevin's image above. If they are below B they face left. The reason for this is to keep the direction of the stem from sticking out too much.
Exceptions are when notes are tied/grouped together. In this case the grouped notes face the same direction and the direction based on the height of the group or majority in the group.

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Fiddlerman you nailed it the second B note is grouped in a set of 3 notes and the first note is alone..

 

I just never came across  this before and is how this tune is started..

 Probably because i am trying a little more advanced music..

 

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John

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Flat-Symbol.jpgImage Enlarger Are you sure the first note isn't the symbol for flat?

Thanks for your reply Kevin i really appreciate you trying to help me out..

I realize i have been playing more than studying music..:O)I cannot help it!!!

 

John

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This is the song i think it should not be to hard but good for practicing slurs...

John

 

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Yes, that has to do with the grouping. The single B at the end of measure 8 is not grouped with the previous E because the connection would have made it like two eighth notes. Grouping the 3/8th notes makes it easier to see/understand the beat.
Theoretically one could have written two 8th note E's with a tie and grouped them all together but that is not usually how it is done.

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johnnyblaze said
Flat-Symbol.jpgImage Enlarger Are you sure the first note isn't the symbol for flat?

Thanks for your reply Kevin i really appreciate you trying to help me out..

I realize i have been playing more than studying music..:O)I cannot help it!!!

 

John

It means you play the b note flat as opposed to the # which would indicate a sharp or the symbol for the natural.  If you see them at the beginning of a staff, usually before the time signature it usually specifies the key signature for the piece although some music incorporates changes in key sig. Or it can be used as an accidental before a note indicating the following note is to be played flat, or sharp depending on the symbol used.

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johnnyblaze said
This is the song i think it should not be to hard but good for practicing slurs...

John

 

It's not particularly hard. I see that it also has several repeats in there.

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My next question would be would you start the B in third positon 3rd finger or first finger on the A string??

 

Im trying to figure if shifting up on the D string is easier..I have a hard time on my first finger on the A going to the first finger on the D smoothly..

 

John

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I would play it in 1st position. Slightly less and more comfortable crossings and it seems like the articulations work out better that way. Experiment with putting the first finger on both strings simultaneously and leaving it down as much as possible.

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I agree with Fiddlerman. I would also play it in first position. 

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Thanks guys you are awesome!!

 

I have the first line of music down and i have been doing it in first position..

 

I have trouble moving the same finger over a string..

 

John

 

 

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Even if you keep it over two strings instead of moving it? Try always covering both strings with that first finger. Don't move it up and down.

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