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Putting life into a tune
dynamics, pulse, and the bowing of The Devil
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OK, I just posted this on another forum, and it was in response to a question about left-hand ornamentation in fiddling, mostly in the Irish traditional style.

My point here is that, although left-hand ornamentation (eg cuts, rolls) can embellish a tune, and may be ingrained in your playing, they are not a necessity for bringing a tune to life. Bowing, with accents, is.

This little soundclip I made just shows an open D string played on a relentless D-U-D-U bowing pattern, but with the accent on different notes. The 'silent' notes are just a decrease in bow pressure (almost zero).

It's basically a straight 1-2-3-4 pattern, and the only variation is on bow pressure.

Parts 1 and 2 show this, and part 3 shows a tune being played 'straight' - then played with the accent on the '3' of the 1-2-3-4 pattern.

http://worldfiddlemusic.com/gu.....accent.mp3

Hope this is of some help :)

Mr Jim dancing

 

 

 

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Wow...thank you for that!!! That's something I REALLY need/want to work on.

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Indeed!  Great demo/lesson, Mr Jim!

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Awesome. Great lesson, Mr. Jim.

I dled it for reference. The last part is reel rhythm bowing, right? I was trying to figure it out when listened to some reels but could not. So it accents on 3rd beat only?

Thank you very much.

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Hi @Worldfiddler 

That was great and good to see demonstrated. (However, I don't think that sell well because of the overly long intro) rofl

 

But really, I reinforces my thoughts that to play a piece with dynamics and life, vibrato in not nessesacery. 

To hear another very good example of this,try to find a recording of Al Cherny playing Orange Blossom Special or Midnight on the Water. It may not use exactly the technique that you have demonstrated, I don't knowdunno but...

This guy has a bowing hand 'to die for'.

 

BTW....... What do you mean 'Another Forum'......Adulterer  I'll never talk to you again you beast. I'm going home to mother. roflol

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Hmm.. Would infants have as much fun in the infantry as adults do in adultery? 

 

dunno

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DanielB said
Hmm.. Would infants have as much fun in the infantry as adults do in adultery? 

 

dunno

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roflGreat question. Personally, I don't think so mate (darn, there is not a 'smiley' available for this one)

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June 29, 2013 - 6:29 am

Rhythm-Syncopes-Dynamics. Brilliant! Thanks for the lesson, Mr.Jim!

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Thanks Jim :-)
I love the intro. Was almost about to shut it down when all of a sudden.... Something else.... :-)

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Thanks for all your replies, folks :)

 

Yes, I should have done all of the parts in equal measure - 8 or 16 notes per pattern. I should have copied the text I posted on the other forum, then it would have been more consistent.

 

Mr Jim dancing

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