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Mark
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Sums up how I feel about my playing and recording my self. 

Mark

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@Mark - 

That video was good for soul-searching - thank you! 

Does this mean you're going to a Party?  

 

Been thinking about how ALL my playing is just practice. 

I have a few really good practice days, terrible practice days (that I try to end on a good way) and how recording just takes a bite out of it, probably somewhere in the middle - and freezes it.  

Having such a casual attitude toward playing the violin/fiddle, I assume I'll always be able to try playing a tune again... better. 

This isn't the case with recording myself & why I don't usually do it. 

I wonder if much of the stress involved with recording ourselves comes about because it is such a final act - and seems followed by not only our own scrutiny but maybe a "Trial of Peers", or worse (family & friends). 

In reality this forum is an ever-expanding Community of Friends, not a Testing/Evaluation Center and I believe "the Party" is a helpful reminder. 

 

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This is important no matter how serious or casual you are, and what level you're playing at.

I actually get nervous about recording myself even when I know I'm only recording for my own reference and no one else will ever see it -- even after I've recorded myself routinely for a long time. Perhaps it is something about the finality or permanence of it. I'm actually much more comfortable performing in front of a live audience than recording. But I do it anyway, because the hardest part of self-teaching is the difficulty of getting good feedback. Even if I get nervous while recording, I'm able to listen afterward without harsh judgment.

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Good video. I should record myself more often.

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Mark is that you in the vid? the sentiments are spot on.

Andrew I thought I was alone with the nervousness in recording myself, I only said the other day in a post that as soon as I hit the record button playing goes out the window with nerves,. 

I have performed many times on guitar and singing and dont get nervous live but go to pieces on a recording, the first time I heard a recording of my violin playing I nearly died of shock it was so bad, it sounded fabulous under my ear, my missus told me how great it sounded so I recorded it, just goes to show dont listen to the missus, its not quite as bad now as I can actually hear the bad notes and bad bowing when I play.

for me its difficult to accept just how hard this instrument is, when I first learned guitar many years a ago I was playing live in a band within six months, it took me longer than that just to be able to hear how bad I am, which is the start of getting good.

Some days when I record myself it ruins my day because its bad, but on other days when its good I bask in glory lol

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The man in the video is jazz violinist Christian Howes.

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@Mark i liked his positive way of thinking about recording or for that matter not recording.  great video..thanks for sharing.  i havent seen this one.

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Thanks Andrew, I dont know any jazz violinists as jazz itself has never interested me to be honest, its the one musical style I cant stand,,, but saying that it doesnt stop me admring musicians who can play it😁

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OMG... think I came across like I don't get frazzled when I record myself(?) 

NOT TRUE! 

Even knowing my material well seems to be very little help - this is depressing. 

Think I even try to foil the frazzles by speeding up or slowing down more when I play - desperate to gain some control.

Seriously thought about just trashing my recent recordings and waiting another 6 months to try again. 

I'm so glad I didn't! 

Because I needed to start somewhere... if I want to be more interactive here.

In 20/20 hindsight, I would like to take better control of other factors, e.g., not rushed, well rested and maybe not "economizing" again (many tunes in one recording session). 

Thanks again for the video, Mark!

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I'm fine with recording myself. Just hate looking at it afterwards. 😜

"The richest person is not the one who has the most,
but the one who needs the least."

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I actually enjoy recording, and it has been fabulous for learning and getting better.

I don’t get nervous per se anymore, but I find it is a really good gauge of how well I know a piece and how comfortable I am with it.  If I feel tense, or cannot get it in one or two takes, I just stop recording and practice the piece and come back to recording it later.

After that point and I have it recorded, I listen for areas of improvement, intonation, sound, timing, feel.

Being honest with myself and really listening makes it a lot easier to find those issues and bury them beneath overdrive, chorus, delay and reverb. :)

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Well, I've got mics and a preamp, so I must use them one day, but I really don't need to record myself to hear my mistakes or as a practice aid - if I'm playing the A string and I accidentally hit the D string, I hear it and do exercises to correct it; and if I'm playing legato string crossings pp in 4th position, I can hear just how crappy it sounds.

But recording magnifies everything, yuk!

Andrew

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