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Hah!
So, I decided to practice some vibrato movements that FM shows in his "Vibrato for Dummies". (I know I jump around a lot in practicing, I guess it's so I don't get bored :P). I practice just the elbow movement, bending the first joint etc etc. It feels like I am comfortable doing it, so I try to do some bowing with it but my right arm starts trying to move with my left arm! I don't need to describe what noise that created. If you really want to know, drag your bow sideways across your E string, back and forth, really fast.
BWAHAHAHA!
I can't read music, but I understand it perfectly.
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Ya making two movements in two opposite directions is not easy I knwo what you are talking about it happened to me quite a few time also LOL.
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its easy to see someone else do it, but man,,,my fingers wont cooperate
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its easy to see someone else do it, but man,,,my fingers wont cooperate
LOL! give your fingers time - they will =)
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I would be interested in knowing when violin teachers usually start teaching those vibrato, slurring etc techniques? Is it something that you learn in your first year or after? Ok beginners probably try by themselves as soon as possible but is there some "rules", things you have to be comfortable with before learning vibrato and bow crazyness?
"It can sing like a bird, it can cry like a human being, it can be very angry, it can be all that humans are" Maxim Vengerov
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Hey Dash,
Did you check out the exercises everyone has posted on vibrato?
https://fiddlerman.com/forum/p.....eo/page-2/
There's one video about 1/2 way down using the edge of a book to get the motion going on. Check it out. Can't hurt right?
"If you practice with your hands you must practice all day. Practice with your mind and you can accomplish the same amount in minutes." Nathan Milstein
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I would be interested in knowing when violin teachers usually start teaching those vibrato, slurring etc techniques? Is it something that you learn in your first year or after? Ok beginners probably try by themselves as soon as possible but is there some "rules", things you have to be comfortable with before learning vibrato and bow crazyness?
My teacher is very simple about this. First month. She asked "Why don't you play vibrato!? What? Really i didn't show how to do this yet?" Then she showed me "Hold the bug" excercise which i practiced infront of her about 20 seconds. And then she said - "Now you'll do this on the violin!" ...and i did something weird, but it satisfied her quite well... That how we learn. LOL! She doesn't pay much attension to my poor vibrato technique though - she's patient.
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Your teacher knows it will 'bug' you every day and you will practice it over and over, she won't have to tell you. lol
"If you practice with your hands you must practice all day. Practice with your mind and you can accomplish the same amount in minutes." Nathan Milstein
My vibrato is slowly improving, still haveing a hard time on the G string though. 
I work at it slowly each day.
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Ok Naska, looks like I should start it right now even if it's only making exercises. I don't really want to use vibrato in all the music but as ornementation here and there but better learn to do it properly! I was a bit scared to start this too early when I'm far from having an easy time with simple bowing and finger placement lol.
"It can sing like a bird, it can cry like a human being, it can be very angry, it can be all that humans are" Maxim Vengerov
Ha-Ha! Yep. 
Though i think it's because vibrato is not SO MUCH important on an early stage - there are much more things that one should learn first, and pay more attention to.
Vibrato may not be important, but to listen to someone playing without it is like listening to someone singing with no vibrato in their voice. Very drab and dull.
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I would say it depends on the music style and the ornementations! Vibrato in Biber passacaglia would not fit imho!
"It can sing like a bird, it can cry like a human being, it can be very angry, it can be all that humans are" Maxim Vengerov
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dashrem said my right arm starts trying to move with my left arm!
That's exactly what happens to me when I make feeble attempts at vibrato. It's like trying to rub your stomach and pat your head at the same time.
When the work's all done and the sun's settin' low,
I pull out my fiddle and I rosin up the bow.
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