emily, may give fhat a try, to ne honest though I will never play in an orchestra  so I am not that concerned about being exact.

Bill, yup I like a challenge its good for the brain cells, as well as good for a laugh. For fisdle tunes I learn nearly all by ear, Know they are a lot easier but thats how I do it, one of the reasons I suppose that you never get the same tune played twice exactly the same way;) I use a lot of the harder classical ones like etudes to work on different aspects of playing, like I have noticed my bowing going off course lately, and fitting in slight vibrato which I am practicing doing to give a bit of colour.