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Working my way through O neils, this is in a different key to what I am used to

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Nicely done! I liked that. Was it confusing with a key you are not familiar with? Meaning, wanting to do flats or sharps where you would normally? Or, does the sound or melody kind of dictate to you that the next note should be a flat or sharp or natural?

I have not been able to be able to do that. Sometimes, I can hear where the next note should be a half step or whole step before seeing on the sheet music, but most of the time, no. That is probably one reason why switching to an unknown key is so difficult and intimidating to me. But are you able to do that, identify a whole or half note coming up? Does that help you when doing an unfamiliar key?

I know, too many questions.🥴

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I know where the note is from the tune playing in my head, if that makes sense. I havent heard this one before, so played it from the music, a few times then when I got used to how it should sound the notes just fall in the right place, dont really know how it happens to be honest. I do practice a lot of scales though, so the finger positions are there already just different place. If a notes out I hear it straight away and try to correct the finger position (still hit flat and sharp notes though)

I actually did this one a few weeks back, this is a recording from then, hopefully I think its improved now after playing around with it for a couple of weeks. It actually needs a lot more bounce and a bit less speed, I tend to race through tunes which isnt a good idea, I keep trying to spend more time on the rythm.

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It's kind of like singing a tune that you have in your head. It means that you have played enough, and that you have sufficient talent that you can play by ear to some degree.
I'm fortunate to be able to play almost anything that I can hear, or have heard and memorized. However, more difficult technical and fast music becomes a challenge without sheet music.

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Thanks for taking a look Gordon and for the kind comment,  its nice to be heard 😉

Fiddlerman, I learn most tunes now by ear (always have with other instruments fiddles a lot more difficult though ) unless I cant find a recording to listen to,  which was the case with this one, so it may not sound exactly as it should but I think it will be fairly close.

For some reason I struggle with rythms on fiddle, think its because of having to think of 300 different things at once. Getting better at it  now but will never be a real fiddle player, I should have started on fiddle when I was about 6, but never had the inclination then. All my family played different instruments, I was Much to busy with action men lol. I am a guitarist really, and a singer ( I tell myself, and is the thing I enjoy most) played guitar for 40 years, until I discovered violin that is, and everything else took a back seat.

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@stringy - 

Geez, that tune sounds SOOOOO familiar!  

Gdor is a wonderful scale!

YOU ARE A FIDDLER 🤗 I enjoyed listening!  

I appreciate you shared this & hope you do more!  

 

If you want to work on rhythm, I think it helps to find someone that 'YOU' feel has a strong groove that you'd like to try.  I look for feeling my body want to move.  Practice exaggerating - I think it's even more important as we play faster & it's easier to back off later.  I feel it's like speaking in public, in front of a room full of strangers... I'm not going to talk the same way to them as I would conversing with you over tea.

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stringy said .......

........For some reason I struggle with rythms on fiddle, think it's because of having to think of 300 different things at once. Getting better at it  now but will never be a real fiddle player, I should have started on fiddle when I was about 6, but never had the inclination then. All my family played different instruments, I was Much to busy with action men lol. I am a guitarist really, and a singer ( I tell myself, and is the thing I enjoy most) played guitar for 40 years, until I discovered violin that is, and everything else took a back seat.
  

Perhaps it's the bowing. Practice the common rhythms and get used to them. I'll post an example when I get a chance. One of the biggest problems with rhythms using a bow is that sometimes the beat is down and sometimes it's up. That makes it a bit more difficult than many other instruments.

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Fiddlerma Much appreciate it thanks.

Emily thanks for giving it a listen, and for the comment, I was drawn to this  one because of the slightly darker sound, and also because its a bit different to play as I said to mouse.

Been listening to Scahill a lot, I really admire his rythm playing, sometimes difficult to follow though as he puts so many ornaments of his own in and also changes tunes to his own design, which I like by the way. He also has a great smoothness to his playing, he is really good at getting different volumes from one note to another.

Been doing quite a bit of singing lately and guitar playing as my backs not been too great and the fiddle aggravates it. 

Enjoyng our nice weather though, great seeing the sun

Ps , Emily you have a great ear, I didnt know what the scale was, thought it was F, then thought it was d minor, and you are correct its g dorian

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@stringy - 

😉 I just play more dorian, minor & mixolydian than anything else!  

 

LOVE Fergal's playing... pretty darn perfect!  Took me a LONG time to feel I was able to appreciate everything he does - I couldn't hear fast enough to catch it all! 😵‍💫  

Finally, a few nice days here, too!!! 🌞

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