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My Mistakes 2023
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Congrats to all the folks out there who recorded a video for the first time for this year’s Fiddlerman Group Christmas Project!

Did you make some mistakes when you were trying to record?  We all do—

As I said last year, mistakes are part of the learning process. 

I made an Outtakes video last year that I posted here:  https://fiddlerman.com/forum/s.....s/#p126892

And now I’ve compiled some of my mistakes since the last video—thought I’d share them.

Outtakes 2023

Have you had some similar moments?

Characterize people by their actions and you will never be fooled by their words.

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@SharonC I love it when you do this. It took me 23 takes for the 2023 project, but I delete them. 

Thank you for showing this. Dang! Even when you do a blooper you sound nice!

This was, and I mean this in a good way, very inspiring because we have seen the non-blooper videos and it makes it look so easy. This shows the work that goes into it. I hope I said that right. I know what I am trying to say, not sure it came out right, 😁

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I loved watching that Sharon !!!  Thanks for making the video !! I’ve got a load of bloopers .. I’ll fine one and post !!

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Thanks, @Katie L .

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Mouse said
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This was, and I mean this in a good way, very inspiring because we have seen the non-blooper videos and it makes it look so easy. This shows the work that goes into it. I hope I said that right. I know what I am trying to say, not sure it came out right, 😁

 

@Mouse  Thanks— I do hope folks get that the mistakes are part of the learning.  I never want to give the impression that I think it is easy.smile

@Katie L Thanks-- Nice blooper!  The violin does not make it easy for us!  Thanks for sharing that—lots of tricky things in the project; I certainly went through it many times.smile

All,

I was just sharing, & if you want to share thoughts (and/or videos), that’s good, but if not, that’s ok, too.  I wasn’t trying to pressure anyone about it.  Just thought it was a good time to reflect on the obstacles of string instrument learning since many have just completed a challenging video project! smile

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Definitely Sharon , I had so many videos like this but I mostly deleted . Near the deadline I was playing it through but then would have a paddy and that meant I couldn’t carry on. My friend said to me if you make a mistake just carry on so that’s what I did ! I ended up with a very imperfect video ! But at least I had something ! I found the triplets the hardest part but I really enjoyed the swing parts and some how managed it ! It was the loooooooong short that helped me do it ! 

Now i’’m back to Gymnopedie which is much slower and more my level!

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VERY CUTE - all of them! 

I don't stop when I make a mistake anymore. 

...used to have a ton of short bloopers, now it's like going to the range - look over all the targets & take home the one with the most shots close to the bullseye.  Figure I will always screw up at least one thing - it's always something different! 

Doesn't help that my focus is 'hit-or-miss', just like my internet service at the moment! 😞 

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Fun bloopers. :)

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Thanks for sharing. I'm sure I recorded my part (violin 4) at least a dozen times before I said, "Well, that's probably as close as I'm going to get being as I actually finished playing my part right on cue." LOL! 

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@Sasha made a post great post about video recording where she talks about stress and how to reduce it here: https://fiddlerman.com/forum/r.....l/#p137865

Similarly, stress can affect you when you play in front of people.  But, unlike recording, you can’t stop the camera & start over—you have to go with it if you make a mistake.

I think a lot of times, the mistakes are minor—almost no one will notice what you’ve done—if you have your game face on (no deer in the headlights look!). 

During this past year, I was playing with my teacher & some other students for an audience.  During this performance, my teacher & I played a duet of Shenandoah (I’ve played this on the forum here: https://fiddlerman.com/forum/p.....2/#p128093

My teacher was playing 1st, and I 2nd.  We had practiced the piece together multiple times, so I felt comfortable with it.

Well, when we started to play, after a few measures in, I was thinking, “wait, this is where I usually shift, why didn’t I shift” and then I realized I was playing along with my teacher on the 1st violin part—we were playing in unison.  I realized this, and then switched to my 2nd violin part a few measures later (the sheet music we used had both parts printed on it).

Don’t know why I did this.  Although I had played both parts before, I hadn’t practiced or played the 1st part for a while, so it wasn't fresh in my mind or anything. dunno

No one knew that this was a mistake—the audience didn't notice, and the other students hadn’t heard us play it before, so they didn’t know, either. 

I think this is where an artist (i.e., not me) would say “It was not a mistake—it was a variation“ smile

In this case, I knew my part (and the other part) well, so that when I had a brain fart and made a mistake, I could still maintain my composure and correct myself real-time. 

Even when you know your part well, you will make mistakes sometimes, or an environmental thing can happen that throws you off.  It’s just going to happen.  You just have to learn how to find your place and recover.   Things like finding the beat, looking for the beginning beat of a measure, etc., is something you learn how to do when you perform live.

For both camera & live performance—you get better at them by doing them—no replacement for experience. 

Characterize people by their actions and you will never be fooled by their words.

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9539ae1ed0ec22bbe158b2609a0bd55a.jpg@SharonC -

Do you find your mind wandering if performing a piece you know really well? 

I have to be so careful not to 'disconnect' sometimes.  Mine usually starts with a little insidious thought, like "hey, this is going pretty well!"... then, "oh *@#$%, did I miss something in that last part?"... "oh, well".  

Practice is SOOO important, but I think finding ways to keep music fresh/mindful is, too. 

I think this is where an artist (i.e., not me) would say “It was not a mistake—it was a variation“ smile

🤣 - hey, just own that creativity!   

Great Topic - thanx for the link! 

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ELCBK said
@SharonC -

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Do you find your mind wandering if performing a piece you know really well? 

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@ELCBK  I think when I practice w/ a group, yes, my mind might wonder.  But when I perform, no.  I think I'm hyper-vigilant then laugh

Characterize people by their actions and you will never be fooled by their words.

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