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Worked this one alot this week.  Different versions.  Started with a base just to see how well i could keep time on banjo at 120.  That was okay but felt like it was dragging.  Was shooting for 150 bit had to back off to 140 which is where this final is.  I had one I called final yesterday but didnt like the guitar or mandolin picking.  so erased those tracks this afternoon recorded again.  missed the intro on guitar so just let the first bar or so be banjo..  

Over in @elcbk topic on chords she talks about chord substitutions.  This one pretty much is a I IV V type song..but in a few places substituted the vi which is Em for G and the last bar substituted the ii which is Am for the C chord.   gives it a we are winding this contraption down now feel. 😉...well i think.

these are fun to make.  gives kimda a short term goal.

 

here is the original 120.  didnt spend alot of time mixing.  

This is the one from yesterday.  the guitar was getting on my nerves.  way too jangly and the mando picking felt to tense.  Not that todays was much better...but I liked it better.   This one has a single mic on banjo and mandolin.  the youtube version i went with a pair in stereo

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@ABitRusty - Really like the YouTube version. Beautiful!!!

The old curmudgeon!

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@ABitRusty -

AWESOME VIDEO! 

Really AMAZING, putting all that together! 

They are all different and I LOVE each one! 

GREAT STUFF! 

Really appreciate the chord & mic info, too! 

Thanx for sharing all this! 

 

 

 

🤔... now, when ya gonna write yer own tune?  

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@JohnG thank you!  yeah i like the youtube best.  

 

@elcbk thank you and youre welcome

heres one me and my son did when he was learning base.  just horsing around with a chord progression.  probably the ol g c d em... dont remember at the moment. 

I was trying to get him to jam with me and he finally caved.  had to do this electro pop kinda thing to get him though..lol.  im on guitar and keys the drums are ezdrummer stuff. 

https://youtu.be/1Wu79gu9HlM

 

this is another.. just gave it a chord progression and played some improv guitar.  then added stuff as it seemed to fit.  all keys except guitars .. no fiddle.

https://youtu.be/xYV2qf8sxEQ

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Oh, wow! 

Those are DREAMY, I'm super impressed - LOVED both of them!  ...percussion just a tad bright (?)

The weird thing about JuneBug...  🤔  Oh yeah, I could pick up the fiddle & slap some 'Irish tune style' licks on that! 

AND, YOU TWO NEED TO JAM MORE! 

Really enjoyed those - Thank you!

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ABitRusty

Those were very good, I enjoyed listening to

them very much.

Thank you for posting those there sounding good.

Mark

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Excellent stuff greg, really like the banjo frailing and I really like he way they are put together as well, very pro sounding. The bass on he one you did with your son sounds, like a bass line that bruce foxton from the jam would play, different style of music but the same type of line, great stuff.

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Thank you @Mark and @stringy !

yes they are @elcbk

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@ABitRusty Boy what a great job!!!! Just something about a banjo that is awesome. Was it hard to play the banjo? are you self taught? what kind of banjo?

Jim(Thomases Dad)

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Thomas B. said
@ABitRusty Boy what a great job!!!! Just something about a banjo that is awesome. Was it hard to play the banjo? are you self taught? what kind of banjo?

  

thank you!

Well, the frets help.. coming from guitar...playing in that position helped.   Hitting strings with back of finger at the correct angle is a challenge..but its like everything else..some practice and progress happens.

.  theres different basic techniques that take a while to get.  im still very much a beginner.  Jan prior to covid i took a day workshop kinda thing.  But after that it pretty much stayed in the case.  clawhammer teachers are hard to find.. i did the youtube and some peghead nation stuff..but couldnt stay motivated, plus fiddle was taking alot more time.

Finally found someone local that did a 6 night, spread over a few months, group lesson series which was great.  taught tunes by ear and then gave out the tab afterward.  each lesson was a bit more difficult due to a new technique being introduced.   its over now so ill have to start some type of routine to keep going.   

it took me a while to get the motion down to hit individual strings while planting thumb all in time.. still a work in progress..but WAY better than prior to classes. 

i have an open back style, no resonator like in bluegrass.   they generally come in sizes like 10", 12, 13" heads.  mine is a 12"  

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@JimandThomas -

I know you must be terribly busy, Jim, but you and Thomas may find some interesting, fun info in this thread: 

Banjos Go Great With The Fiddle Thread

I haven't been able to spend much time with it, but have started to get my fingers acquainted. 

Fun stuff!

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@ELCBK and @ABitRusty All this banjo talk is completely foreign to me. I grew up listening to Roy Clark playing the banjo with my parents and absolutely loved it. I always wanted to play the same kind of banjo and still think there are very few who can pick like Roy. Anyway, my favorite banjo tune was, when I was a child and continues to be to this day, the dueling banjos and that is the tune I have always been enamored with. Someday I will pick up a banjo and I think it just reminds me of the stories my  father used to tell me about my great grandfather pickin at the old barn dances over a century ago. Fiddlin and pickin....dont think you can get a more lively, fun, exciting and purely downhome "kickin up the heals' music.

Jim(Thomases Dad)

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Thomas B. said
All this banjo talk is completely foreign to me. I grew up listening to Roy Clark playing the banjo with my parents and absolutely loved it. I always wanted to play the same kind of banjo and still think there are very few who can pick like Roy. Anyway, my favorite banjo tune was, when I was a child and continues to be to this day, the dueling banjos and that is the tune I have always been enamored with. Someday I will pick up a banjo and I think it just reminds me of the stories my  father used to tell me about my great grandfather pickin at the old barn dances over a century ago. Fiddlin and pickin....dont think you can get a more lively, fun, exciting and purely downhome "kickin up the heals' music.

I was the same way with it and "fiddle" type stuff up until a few years ago. And anything banjo up until last couple of years.  Im like you the iconic banjo tune would be dueling banjos in that bluegrass type style.  If someone asked 10 years ago to name a banjo tune that wouldve been the only one i could name. 

sorta lumped it all together and it wasnt anything I heard live much, except for maybe a summer visit to Opryland if anyone remembers that. Of course radio but that was mainly mainstream country stuff. 

...I certainly didnt have anyone in the family that played that or any instrument.  Parents were either motown or 3 dog night, The Doors kinda stuff.  think there may have been a mac davis and john denver 8track in the stereo along with some ELO, Niel diamonds hot august night, and Barry White.

My oldest son dabbled in guitar a bit when in the service and came home with it on leave.  think hearing him strum and play whatever it was he was interested in made me want to play with him..so picked up a cheap guitar to get up to speed on.  took off from there. 

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@ABitRusty I like Sandy River Belles at 140—I think that tempo is perfect for it.  Great mixing—sounds very balanced.  Like Junebug, too—both tunes are excellent.

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thanks @SharonC !   i liked the 120 for the laid back swing feel...but the 140 felt closer to being best tempo.

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This is wonderful, @ABitRusty Very relaxing to listen to. 

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thank you @damfino ! 

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