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Has anyone any good tips on counting 32nd notes, specifically, dotted 16th to 32nd, I thought of slowing it down to dotted 8th to 16th, to get the time,  right then speeding it up, the tune is Aria Amorosa By Nicolo Matteis, 66 beats per min from baroque violin book 2, I have been working through the entire book, as an exercise but these notes are tripping me up.

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It's not really about counting, it's about feeling the rhythm.

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My problem is, I have never heard the tune, I have been looking for a recording on line but cant find one, if I could hear it, I could do as you say, my reading is still pretty poor, getting better, but not yet to the point were it is bang on, I learn something, finally find a recording and then find I am way out on parts, very frustrating, but then again all part of the learning process I suppose.

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@stringy you could always input the notes into musescore or other notation package.   As long as your not talking about multiple pages it isnt too bad...a little tidious at first but after a bit goes fairly quickly.  Also search their site or other sites for midi versions...kinda like the session has but on classical type sites.   ive seen them out there.  youll have to get past the midi sound but sometimes it helps with tricky passages.

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@stringy in addition to above here is a link to midi...its horrible as far as sound but may help.. my apologies if wrong tune...

https://imslp.org/wiki/File:WI.....amoro3.mid

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I think that ones it greg, have to plày through it again to make sure, the first one that is, thanks a mill, it sounds slower than I thought, but then again I am a dumbo with cloth ears lol, its two pages long unfortunately, but great practice.

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@stringy no problem..hopefully will help.  that one seems like a bit of a challenge!  

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I LOVE this! 

Beautiful find - got me interested!

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July 15, 2021 - 5:07 pm
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@stringy 

It's all about counting the beat. So if you play 16th notes you're playing 4 notes per beat. All-i-ga-tor, so you count the first note, "All"...... It's hard to explain but you would do the same thing with 32nd notes. but count the first of every eight.
Su-per-cal-i-fra-gi-lis-tic - Su-per-cal-i-fra-gi-lis-tic and you have the beat on Su....

Perhaps you would think two sets of 16th notes with the emphasis on the first of the two, All-i-ga-tor - All-i-ga-tor, All-i-ga-tor - All-i-ga-tor, All-i-ga-tor - All-i-ga-tor, All-i-ga-tor - All-i-ga-tor....... And so on, and so on.... LOL

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One thing that may help is to mark beats (or even half-beats) in the sheet music. That's something I do a lot when I have to learn music quickly for orchestras. It's useful when you can't immediately tell where the beat is at a glance. Orchestra musicians commonly mark them with a light vertical pencil line, visible above the staff and sometimes going through the note or rest on the beat when necessary for clarity.

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