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this frog is on a bow I bought

i was thinking it was some type of horn...

questioning myself, any ideas what it is?D865CEFD-1880-4282-A54B-0EFEDCAAF99E.jpegImage Enlarger

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Huh..i zoomed in and it almost looks somewhat clear..almost like amber.  I have no idea and no experience to judge with but looks neat.

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I have no idea.  Sorry.  It looks cool!  Could be animal horn. I don't see a wood grain in it.  I just don't know.

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Looks like tortoise shell.  See if you can find a central lamination point.  The material was heated in boiling water and clamped over a curved form to create a half of a frog, two mirrored halves making the whole.  Ebony was used as a center for thin shell.  

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Tortoise shell makes more sense.  If so, it is a cool frog.

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Irv said
Looks like tortoise shell.  See if you can find a central lamination point.  The material was heated in boiling water and clamped over a curved form to create a half of a frog, two mirrored halves making the whole.  Ebony was used as a center for thin shell.  

  

I just bought it this morning along with nine other older bows, will have to investigate more when it arrives 

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I'm not sure that I've ever seen a white bow frog that looks exactly like that. Obviously it is old but still. I too think that it is some kind of horn though they are usually a bit more consistent.

Are there tortoise shells that are white?

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Fiddlerman said

Are there tortoise shells that are white?

  

I'm not seeing a white frog, @Fiddlerman 

Perhaps it is my screen but I see a yellow/brown color.

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Are there tortoise shells that are white?

  

I'm not seeing a white frog, @Fiddlerman 

Perhaps it is my screen but I see a yellow/brown color.

  

True, not white, whitish..... but more yellow, and brown. But that is what I meant. Though I did a Google search on Tortoise shells and saw shells that were much lighter colored than I remembered. So yes, maybe a tortoise shell.

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Here is a bison horn frog.  The pattern looks similar to what @steveduf has.  This one is much lighter in color.

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I found a photo that is a more typical version of tortoise shell.  It is not very thick.06B23DF4-FEF4-4172-B808-18D6A2E84E13.jpeg

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When I receive the frog in a few days I’ll do a hot needle test on it,  I am wondering if it’s Bakelite?

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Here are some pics of it,  the bow is really heavy with old rosins,and at this point does not appear to be pernambuco.  The stick is stamped Germany.  It is very colorful and one piece with no visible seam from injectioE968A08B-4A75-4800-B7B2-FEEB65152EF6.jpegImage Enlarger8277F1A4-80C4-4F0C-9072-E249A4739C30.jpegImage Enlarger19EE4C94-E642-42C4-B644-C2B4F7E5D730.jpegImage Enlarger5D2E1AD0-F47F-483C-8AF5-5362797708B2.jpegImage Enlarger

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Interesting and unique.... 😎

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