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As the title suggests I am thinking of having geared pegs put on later in the year, finally got tired of of turn a fraction  over, turn a fraction back under, was wondering what peoples opinions are, and wittner or planetary

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I have geared on everything. I think they are Wittner. I am not sure what the difference is, but I am pretty sure that that is what I have. I love them! 

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Dont know if there is much difference in them, but the luthier I use said he could get me a set 120, and put them on for 80, English pounds, cant remember which ones he said they were, but like I said I am wasting too much time with these wooden pegs, and for me, if you have an invention like this why not use it, unless someone tells me there are some kind of drawbacks too them

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There aren't any drawbacks from what I have told, by professional violinists at the violin shop I used to go to until the owners retired. They played in the Rochester Philharmonic. 

Some people just think doing or using anything the original violinists did not do or use is anti-violinist. Really? We do use cars not horses, pens and paper not stone tablets with chisels, etc, now, 😂.

It takes a few more winds to restring, but the benefit is well worth it. It isn't a big deal with the violin, but cellos it shows more, but still worth having geared pegs in the cello, too.

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I wonder if there was a big opposition to shoulder rests when they came out, because they were an innovation, even though it was so long ago, and even chin rests, they didnt have them originally as far as I am aware.

I think I will probably go ahead anyway, as I said I am fed up messing about with these wooden pegs when there is no real reason to.

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I've got Perfection Planetary pegs on the Glasser Carbon Fiber violin I've got--I think they work well.  I hadn't used this violin as often as my main violin, but I did just use it for a couple weeks straight while my main violin was in the shop; the pegs worked well the whole time, smooth turning, no slipping.

I don't have any experience with the Wittner's to offer a comparison opinion.  I prefer my wood pegs, but I'm not having any problems with them.  If I had problems, I don't think I would hesitate to go with the geared ones.

Although, another reason I prefer the my wood ones is I found that changing strings on the Perfection Planetary pegs (and I'd imagine any geared peg) is (a little) harder. 

When I put on new strings, I'm used to moving the peg out (to work around another string) and then pushing in as I wind it.  You can't do that with the geared pegs because the peg's casing is fixed.  That said, you just have to move the adjacent string to wind the string you're working on; something that probably gets easier as you do it.  

This short video mentions the string changing thing.

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@stringy -

I like them!  

I like that I don't have to worry about weather changes causing slipping, or being unable to turn.  Once my strings settle, I very rarely have to tune. 

I had thought all my Glasser instruments use 'Perfection' Planetary geared pegs.  They work a little differently, have to be pulled out a little to 'disengage' - loosen easily to change strings, then push back in for fine tuning/hold the tuning.  I had absolutely no problems with them on my 5-string Violin and 5-string Viola.  I use 2 hands on this type of geared peg - others may not need to, but might bother some folks.  🤔... I've never even had a regular peg to try to tune with one hand!

I hesitate to mention I had a problem with my new Glasser 6-string pegs - slipping in the pegbox & being stiff to disengage, but crap 🤬... just realized they might be another kind of geared peg!  🤔... they're NOT the same shape as on my other 2 instruments (the part I grab to turn).  Had figured it was just because this pegbox is so overly large they might be a different 'style' of peg, but not a different type of mechanism... nothing was said about it anywhere.  Well, don't 'think' I broke them - they're still holding after I changed my strings this last time...  I'll get it figured out. facepalm

Just make sure you know what kind you have installed & how they work!

 

...btw, I see there are a bunch of DIY tutorials on YT - how to install your own. 

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I like them on my glasser carbon fiber.  DITTO all that Sharon said about string changing.

if you havent fine turners, add those first.   I honestly dont need the pegs on my wood violin that much with fine tuners.  Also, not sureabout the weight difference, even if very little, will affect how your violin feels after adding the geared tuners.

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