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History of Some String Changes.
Differences about some strings with attention to tension specs for the string sets.
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Trials with a new violin.

Came with Tonicas.  Sound quality "fair".  Too much treble.

Zyex.  (54.9 lbs.).  "Noisey".  Bass content still weak.

( It is noteable that the Zyex at 54.9 lbs. exceeds the Pirastro Evah Pirazzi at 53.3 lbs. and Pirastro offered these as their powerful "virtuoso" strings, mainly for pros.   Maybe then the Zyex are (also) a more difficult technical string (?).  I know of no higher set.)

Dominants  (48.3 lbs.)  Turned out to be perhaps the best of the group.  My set is almost 5 years old.

Pro Arte (50.7 lbs.)  Nothing more to offer than Dominants.

Crystal Corelli (48.5 lbs.)  The low tension champ (?) and it did make a difference but reminded me of "light" strings.  Bass did pick up but I needed to use one of my heavier bows to get the best sound.

Unfortunately, all this info may not do any good and the hunt is endless for the best improved sound quality.  Such is the violin student's life smile

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But, good news if you own a string distributorship

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dionysia said
But, good news if you own a string distributorship

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dazedroflolroflolroflolexactly

 

I have three sets of strings and they are on two instruments! Go figure...LOL

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With the price of VSOs, I can imagine the time when violins might be given away just to promote the accessory business.

In fact, if you buy one of my $5000 bows, I WILL supply a free violin.

I would estimate my string graveyard at maybe $500.

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Oliver said
With the price of VSOs, I can imagine the time when violins might be given away just to promote the accessory business.

In fact, if you buy one of my $5000 bows, I WILL supply a free violin.

I would estimate my string graveyard at maybe $500.

dazed

Ah, like the razor industry model. Give away the handle but charge crazy amounts for the replacement cartridges. Ink-jet printers also come to mind...

 

To make that work in the instrument field, they'd have to have some sort of proprietary strings that only work with the giveaway fiddle, though...

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Ah, like the razor industry model. Give away the handle but charge crazy amounts for the replacement cartridges. Ink-jet printers also come to mind...

 

is that why you gave up using razors all over? roflol

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I have visions, like em so far. I dont know enough to know if I shouldnt like em for one reason or another. Interesting to read about though. mine were 50 bucks for the set, pretty steep for me. Ive often wondered if more expensive strings, bows etc equal better sound? Im resigned to the opinion that the better quality stuff lasts longer, but really an appreciable jump in sound quality? I need to nuke out my intonation first before I go any further.

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TerryT said

Ah, like the razor industry model. Give away the handle but charge crazy amounts for the replacement cartridges. Ink-jet printers also come to mind...

 

is that why you gave up using razors all over? roflol

 

roflolroflolroflolroflolroflol

Makes sense!

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Interesting study, Oliver.  I've been toying with the idea of trying a set of the Crystal Corellis.  The local music shop has a couple sets at a better price than I can find online.  That's a bit unusual, since usually their prices are higher, so I've been assuming they aren't a "mover" for the shop.  Still tempting, since they have them priced lower than anything else.  But hey, I'm currently using Rotosounds, so it might be a worthy experiment. LOL

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Crystals are not a big mover because most of their benefits are not well understood AND they do suffer from being a quieter string.  Of course, the final issue is "what do they sound like?"

A clue lies in some data comparison.  NOTE  There is an error in below data.  The one column should be "Without E string".   "Without A string" is incorrect .

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