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How much of our perception of music, the instruments, accoutrements, etc. is merely an illusion, figments of our imaginations? Why do we so often feel that if we had that wonderful, incredibly expensive violin or bow or whatever that our playing would improve exponentially? Is it sloth on our parts? Is it that we would rather buy it than work for It? Is it simpler than that, and that we just believe that it's better because it's more expensive, or is it that we just want to look impressive rather than be impressive? Ask yourself if you owned a Strataveri, would you truly sound any better? That is to others, not just yourself.
The search for great technique does not always lead to great music, but the search for great music does always lead to great technique.

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I have to say I don't feel that way. I have a decent fiddle and bow...a Fiddlerman Concert violin with a carbon fiber bow. I would like to upgrade, but not because I feel it would make me a better player...probably just violin vanity, I think. Whether I had a less expensive violin or a more expensive one, I would still be the same player. I know I have a lot of work to do no matter what grade instrument or bow I own. Others may think differently.
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I believe there's a glass ceiling when it comes to violins. After one point you pay more for the brand or maker, not for the quality of the instrument itself. I think it's true that a lot of people look for a simple way around. They just don't want to put in all the hard work necessary to improve.
'Armed with theory, practice becomes meaningful. Through practice, theory becomes fulfilled.' - Egon von Neindorff.

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There definitely is a subjective component. Indeed, part of it is in our heads.
There is a point where subtle differences sensed by us cannot be heard by others. A good test for tone and general musicianship is always an audience, even if it's an audience of one.
On the other hand, how we feel about an instrument effects our interaction with it including how we play. Thus, non-essential differences such as aesthetics cannot be discounted off-hand.
Regarding having to justify our purchases, that comes from many of us not being well-paid professionals. It's a hobby and we often feel pangs of guilt spending money on our hobbies. It's different when the item cost can be off-set with income from it.
Most musicians I know are hobbyists or only semi-pro. I've never heard one denigrate someone's choice of instrument either way but I don't think I would associate with someone who does.
I can't speak for others but this is a hobby for me. I do it because it brings enjoyment to me. My goal is to be able to call myself a fiddler and share some music with others and to eventually play in the church. I have no plans of becoming a professional or to gain fame. The ends toward my purchases are to bring me enjoyment and hopefully to bring enjoyment to others when I get to that point.

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After having read the replies above, I realize that there is a factor that I disregarded, and that is "why we play". If one plays because it makes him or her feel good, then I can clearly see that playing an instrument that they feel good about playing could significantly increase the enjoyment of that experience. The operative word in that last statement is, of course, if. I should have thought of that and included that in my original posting. My apologies for that omission.
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There are several reasons why I started to learn to play the violin at age 60. Here are the reasons, to inspire at least one of my grandchildren to want to learn to play an instrument and maybe play in the high school band one day so I can watch them on Friday nights, second, realized I didn’t want to spend my life in front of a tv at night and wanted to do something productive with myself, three, I have always loved music but wanted to say I am a musician because there is a difference, and finally, after I started, I realized it brought peace to my soul when I’m practicing. There wasn’t the illusion it would be easy, each day I have a new resolve to become just a little better than the day before.

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There are several reasons why I started to learn to play the violin at age 60. Here are the reasons, to inspire at least one of my grandchildren to want to learn to play an instrument and maybe play in the high school band one day so I can watch them on Friday nights, second, realized I didn’t want to spend my life in front of a tv at night and wanted to do something productive with myself, three, I have always loved music but wanted to say I am a musician because there is a difference, and finally, after I started, I realized it brought peace to my soul when I’m practicing. There wasn’t the illusion it would be easy, each day I have a new resolve to become just a little better than the day before.
Well said @x Coach
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I enjoy visiting violin and guitar shops and trying out new gear. Sometimes maybe I let myself become too focused on the hunt instead of just practicing. That goes for practicing tunes I can already play and making them better..developing faster speed better tone and such as well before moving to the next tune. I know better gear wont instantly make me a better musician..but sometimes a better instrument, gear CAN help. And even if it doesnt, I enjoy it..I know what I can/cant afford and what the heck..its my hobby go for it. When not doing that I can live through all of your new gear purchases if you post about it so keep it going! lets support our suppliers and economy...if we dont do our part theyll stop making this stuff...THEN..where will we all be! A little over the top there..sorry.. I think we are here (forum) to exchange ideas and share in our hobby so new gear is part of it and part of what makes it enjoyable. Good discussion!

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Yes indeed I saw the saw a difference upgrading, as I learnt on a $75 dollar amazon cielo which was falling apart after 3 months! - the bow I am currently playing with cost lots more than my first fiddle - and I believe I got lucky with my fiddle as it was a great deal and I love it! No need to upgrade for sure, I love the sound, the look, the feel, I love everything about it. But I did need to upgrade from the first one otherwise I probably would have given up!
I think its a really personal feeling too, my friend has a nice fiddle, however she likes mine better and "thinks" she sounds better, does this give her more confidence maybe? She doesn't play any differently, she just believes its better, is her playing actually improving? I really think so...this might sound weird but I think she actually concentrates more on mine, she seems to put more passion into it! So we frequently swop and laugh and play!
My driving will not improve with a better car, however I know I prefer and enjoy driving my car rather than my sons beaten up old truck - But I still get from A to B, even with no air and busted seatbelt which is just not fun!
So I believe it's the experience, at least as an adult beginner, whatever will, and can make you enjoy your passion is worth every penny you can afford to put into it.

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Fiddlerman said
As for new violins, as long as the dealer is honest, you get what you pay for.It is however much easier to play on a great instrument vs cheap...
My violin is a good violin. It is not worth thousands and thousands of dollars. However, I love playing it, it is of a quality that I can grow into, it is well built (no loose parts, cracks, splits, or odd vibration issues). It is solid.
But here's the thing... I tried many violins before I chose the one I have. When I picked it up and played it, I knew instantly that it was my violin. If you have ever heard someone say the violin practically plays itself, this is referring to what @Fiddlerman is describing. A violin that has the sound and tone which will come out naturally. That is a good violin.
Price and name can make a difference. But generally this is much more crucial to a professional level player. My level of playing is not yet honed enough to bring out qualities of a very valuable instrument (like a Strad worth millions of dollars). The investment of purchasing valuable instruments is a very good idea, financially, but if you are talking about quality of playing, that is a personal and individual decision.
Professionals do not necessarily purchase the most expensive instrument they can find. They will likely play several instruments and select one that will bring out their style and preference of playing the best. This may or may not be an extremely expensive instrument. But it is the best one for them.
Now, clearly, the instruments which I might look at are in a different quality class (and price range) from those that a professional might be looking at. But the process is the same. When I play a violin and I will listen for specific things... tone, resonance, ease of play, projection, consistency with higher notes, etc... And although a Stradivarius is going to produce wonderful sound, I probably will not be able to bring out the most that violin can produce because of my skill level. For me, I may be very happy with an instrument that costs a few thousand dollars... not necessarily the million dollar Strad. But it is pretty safe to say I probably won't buy the least expensive instrument either.
A beginner to intermediate player should probably buy an instrument that is the most comfortable to play in terms of ease to use and can be played without having to fight to get the sound they want. You should probably also buy an instrument that is the most your budget can afford because it is likely that instrument will be a higher quality.. that is just the way violins work. And like @Fiddlerman says, an honest dealer will not steer you wrong.
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There are two things I want to mention.
But I don't want to repeat myself. My experience as a teenager was with a plastic oboe. I can't remember if I said that before.
Good music is about searching. I don't want to saying "searching your soul" but it's like that. And a cheap instrument can force a player with promise to learn to search, albeit the hard way, and that can be a good thing. Arguably it could force a kid to give up, but possibly a kid that gives up was never destined for much. However, that is inadvertently to stray from community music into elitism (but I have given up many things - I was never destined for much). Playability is great, but it's only great if you do the playing and don't expect the instrument to play itself. Every instrument has to be searched for its voice, and every piece of music has to be searched for its music.
Yes, there are rich people on every instrument who don't search, except for a better instrument to do the work for them, and it doesn't.
The second thing I want to mention is diminishing returns. That's partly where the OP's illusory bit comes in, I suspect. There's a youtube video that shows that a $270k violin sounds better than a $100 violin (even though Pierre may have made that $100 violin sound great). But, a) it's not 2700 times better; b) am I supposed to buy that $270k violin? I don't think so - I'd rather have a place to live!; and c), you will sound better on your $1k violin than your lawyer nextdoor neighbour will sound on his $270k violin, so don't worry. He'll be forced to spend $30k on a bow and pretend it's 300 times better than a $100 bow. And his dog will eye it up and think it's a chew toy, and one day he may get hold of it if the owner is not careful.
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@Jim Dunleavy After listening to the three string shovel, I agree that skill and level of expertise can be much more important than the instrument. Another example is @fiddlerman and his testing of a $99 violin package. I am pretty sure if I played that violin, I could make it sound quite screechy.
Having played a few different instruments by now, I do believe that a better instrument can potentially help me to enjoy myself more, and make my learning easier. I agree with some of the points here though, there is a point of diminishing returns, and likely it will take me years with my current violin before I am ready to see any advantage to moving up.
That said, if I won the lottery tomorrow, I would likely buy a Holstein violin and a very nice cello too, both from Fiddlerman's shop. I am an unabashed hoarder.
Oh and one last note: I got my hearing aids tuned up today, and THEY make a big difference to what I hear from my instrument. Many things affect my perceived sound, and my enjoyment. Part of my illusion apparently has batteries.
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