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Hi,
I was looking at the D Z Strad 450 Antique model to purchase but I can't find anything on it from really anyone at all other that D Z Strad.
https://dzstrad.com/products/d.....maple-back
It seems to be a good violin but I've never heard it before and there are no reviews.
I also have the Carlo Lamberti Master, Fiddlerman Soloist, or Scott Cao 750 or 850 in mind. Leaning more towards the Soloist because it sounds good and comes with a lot of stuff and I believe it to be very fine instrument.
I don't have any stores near by with these violins or really any store at all near me that I can drive to to play another type. I've heard them all on video on the Fiddlerman site or others on YouTube but I've never heard the D Z Strad or seen a realistic picture of it other than the one on the D Z site. I really like this 450 model though but it's a mystery to me.
I feel safest buying from Fiddlerman but for some reason this D Z Strad 450 is sticking out at me maybe because it has 25 year old and 35 year old woods but I don't want to overpay or be able to get a better violin for the same or less price.
Thanks for any help

Regulars

Hi BobbyFlay and welcome to the forum.
It's always exciting to be on the path of choosing a new violin... wish you lots of positive experience along the way.
I suggest you give Fiddlerman (Pierre) a call and have a nice, long chat. Explain what qualities interest you in your price range. Even between violins of the same brand and model, there are audible differences. When you've found something you think you might love and you still want to play it before finally committing, no prob... just set up an in-home trial with Fiddlershop.
Besides their usually large stock of various model Fiddlerman, Holstein and Scott Cao violins (to name a few) they often have specials (unlabeled samples, trade ins from folks trading up, etc.) The second violin I bought from them for my adult son was one of those... a lot of bang for my buck indeed.

Regulars

I wonder if you have Googled "D Z Strad" or "D Z America" or looked for them on GoogleEarth. The experience seemed surreal to me, but perhaps it's because I don't understand American businesses. D Z America have a FB page with the slogan "America first, Algeria second". Perhaps they are a soccer team. Perhaps there is more than one D Z America. Perhaps someone could explain it to me. Their store seems to be at 60S Lexington, not 50 Main, White Plains, although GoogleEarth could be out of date.
A lot depends on your "life budget". For me, $2000 would be the last instrument I ever buy, and I'd want to play it before I buy. For others it would be a starter instrument and a backup when they buy their pro fiddle.
I'd feel safer going to Pierre.
Andrew
Verified human - the ignominy!

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With that kind of budget, I concur with Gordon and bocaholly here. This is a try before you buy situation. I'll save Fiddlerman his salesman spiel and tell you (it's also listed on fiddlershop's site) that there's an "in-home trial" program.
Fiddlershop isn't the only violin dealer to offer something like this either. Even better if there's a violin shop within commuting distance from you.
This would alleviate any of your reasonable anxieties related to your purchase. When it comes to acoustic instruments, spec sheets and photos mean a lot less than how it is in your hands and ears.
If Fiddlershop is the dealer you're going with, your budget also fits a few of the Holstein line of violins.

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Hey Guys,
I guess I could say I'm looking for something that is easy to play and that retains it's value decently. I am more of a guy that likes a brighter sound but I also don't like when lower strings sound dull or dead. I've been playing guitar for years and am moving to a violin. Many guitars I've tried have a dead low E string and that is what I really do not want in a Violin. I'm not sure if Violins have this issue as well where some strings are very dead when you play them.
Thanks for the replies and help. I think I've decided not to go with a D Z Strad. The reviews seem good from what little I can find but I feel worried about the quality for some reason. Maybe it would be great but I don't want to take the risk.
Anyways, I'm leaning towards a Scott Cao, Soloist, or Carlo Lamberti. The Ming seems nice but it's getting a little out of what I want to pay but maybe the 903 would be ok. I do like the Scott Cao 850 but not sure how much better that is than the 750. I feel comfortable payin the $1259 sell price for the Soloist and am stretching if Im' going up to $1500 because on those ones they don't come with anything and I'll have to pay even more to get the bow and all the other stuff.
Unfortunately I don't have a shop that I have time to go to. It would require me taking off work to be able to make it to one before they closed and I can't do that right now. Any shop that looks decent is too far away to make it to in time. And any I found online that are closer to me that I still can't get to just have some that I've never heard of and I'll never know if I'm being overcharged or I don't know if I could ever feel comfortable with after purchasing.
The Holstein seems nice but I saw the Soloist was made in their shop now. So wouldn't that be about the same quality violin for a cheaper price and come with more accessories?
Thanks for all of your help guys!

Regulars

cid said
At this store I have the option to trade in my violin for another of equal or greater value (pay the difference), minus any repair costs.
People should get an agreement to this in writing, perhaps. I do know of a big shop in London that sold a student violin with the promise of a trade-up deal then denied they had made that promise when the person went in for the trade-up.
Andrew
Verified human - the ignominy!

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Thanks for the suggestions and help. I went ahead and purchased the Fiddlerman Soloist based on the advice from Fiddlerman and should have it hopefully next week sometime. I was torn between the Scott Cao, Carlo Lamberti, and Holstein models but I couldn’t find anything that was as good of a deal as the Soloist outfit and the Carlo was out of stock for a couple weeks everywhere and was a little pricey not including anything with it from Shar.

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Also, I gotta say I’m impressed with the customer service and work ethic of the Fiddlershop so far. In my cubicle I’m finding inspiring entrepreneurs and people who have a strong work ethic and tacking their picture up on my wall to help me to keep on my toes at work and do my best.
I’ve already got Gordon up there I might have to add Pierre.
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