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Ming Jiang Zhu 909 Chin rest and tail piece
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I'm looking to replace my MJZ 909s chin rest and tail piece.

It's a 2014 model. I've posted pics. below if anyone knows which model chinrest and tail piece this is?

 

I saw this boxwood one on Fiddlershop but the feet seem to be different that clamp it to the violin.

https://fiddlershop.com/produc.....9915810867

 

Thanks for the help!

 

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It looks like the same one, except it has the separate leg type feet, rather than the connected legs for the feet. I saw them sold somewhere. Maybe on Amazon. I didn’t see them on Fiddlershops Violin Accessories. But I will look again.

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@BobbyFlay I think they are Hill Style. Here is a link to the Guarneri with black Hill style feet:

https://fiddlershop.com/collec.....lin-padauk

Here it is in gold on Fiddlershop

https://fiddlershop.com/produc.....-with-gold

I have seen them in silver, elsewhere, but I would check with Fiddlershop if you want to getbit through them.

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Thanks cid for the replies. I am not opposed to a different color wood I just don't know what it would look like with the different color. It would be nice to have a color configurator somewhere to see them on the violins kind of like the ones on the tire and wheel websites where you can look at the different wheels on your make car. Maybe I should code one. That would be pretty cool to be able to do on a violin as well.

 

These look nice in the links. Also I'm not sure if the sound will be affected by the different style of feet or chin rest?

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I was advised that the mass of the chinrest would affect resonance. That might be a consideration if you have a choice of types of wood for your chinrest. Of the three most commonly used woods, ebony is the densest, rosewood is in the middle, boxwood is the least dense.

Rosewood also has a greater allergy risk than other woods; I would advise saving yourself some hassle and avoiding it unless you know that you are not allergic. (My viola came with a rosewood chinrest that I used for 12 years, so I know I'm not allergic to it.)

I'm not that picky about color, myself. Most people seem to try to have matching chinrest, tailpiece, and pegs. My viola currently has a boxwood chinrest, ebony tailpiece, and rosewood pegs. It looks fine. I've seen a few other people use boxwood chinrests with dark-colored tailpieces.

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BobbyFlay, are you considering changing your tailpiece and chinrest for aesthetic, comfort or acoustical reasons?

To pick up on AndrewH's comments about wood density and the hypothesis that it influences resonance, I'd add that African padauk is lighter than even the lightest of the three mentioned above. 

As always, I suppose it depends on your particular instrument. Mine is quite happy with a 38gr (titanium feet included) Wave 1 chinrest cut down to a hair under an inch in height. If the same chinrest had been ebony with nickel plated feet, it would have been as heavy at 75gr (est. by an expert, not by me :-) It looks like Fiddlershop has a padauk Guarneri style chinrest which is probably even lighter because it's less massive.

Re: aesthetics, my padauk chinrest, rosewood tailpiece and violin are all different tones and shades which don't really match (not to mention my heretical geared pegs). My priorities were:
1) comfort (biggest priority by far)
2) sound (as a beginner, a nice afterthought which happened to work out well)
3) looks (can't win 'em all :-)
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I'm wanting to change it because the metal on the feet is getting spotty looking or wearing down. So I really want the same model chin rest and tail piece if possible.

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Bobbyflay,

If the actual chin rest is good just change out the hardware.

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I agree with Mark, if your only reason to change things is the hardware aging, have it changed out. No need to change the tailpiece if it's just the chin rest that needs an update, and you are happy with it so far.

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I wish hardware was more readily available. The truth is that it's often just as cheap to change the whole chin-rest than to replace the hardware on it. :(
But yes, no need to change the tailpiece unless you're not happy with it.

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Fiddlerman said
I wish hardware was more readily available. The truth is that it's often just as cheap to change the whole chin-rest than to replace the hardware on it. :(
But yes, no need to change the tailpiece unless you're not happy with it.  

I do agree seems just getting a new chin rest is best or if I want to go all out just get the titanium feet you have at Fiddlershop.

There is really nothing wrong with the tailpiece or the chin rest other than the tailpiece has a little nick on it from where the ball end of the e string was resting on it but I fixed that with a new fine tuner that sits out from the tailpiece farther and the chin rest feet are looking as they are losing color and getting spotty or something.

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Glad you worked it out. Let us know if we can help you with anything else.

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