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Odd tailpiece attachment
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I saw a video of German folk music (called Die Hoameligen) in which the violin has a small horn-shaped attachment on the tailpiece. I’ve never seen anything like this. The screenshots below are poor quality, but they do show an object on the tailpiece. Does anyone know what it might be?

 

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August 13, 2023 - 3:33 pm
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@Strabo I think it is an amplifier.

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@Strabo -

I've seen several 'lavalier' type mics that either clip on, or use velcro.  They mount to the strings between the bridge & tailpiece, so I would guess it's a shield/directional modification - especially if using an omnidirectional mic. 

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If you zoom in on the top photo, it looks like your typical foamy mic, and the I bet the wood around it is to prevent noise from you being picked up. You know, a shield around the foamy mic?

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Strabo

Never seen anything like it, very interesting. 

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The foam and other shielding is most likely to stop the mic from picking up the player's breath.

The top picture looks as though the mic is touching the bridge. I'd be surprised if that's right, although it's probably ok from the mic's pov if the foam is thick enough. From the bridge's pov, it might even slightly dampen the high frequencies in a pleasant manner.

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Interesting observations, I cannot imagine better explanations. I did send email to the band, asking for clarification. I haven’t heard back, perhaps because I wrote in English, not German. 

I have never consider the fiddler’s breath as an issue. Maybe I now need to add one more item to the list of things to think about while fiddling -- as though I don’t have too many already...

Maybe I need to cut down on all that wild panting and gasping when I get rocking! 

Strabo 

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Strabo said
Interesting observations, I cannot imagine better explanations. I did send email to the band, asking for clarification. I haven’t heard back, perhaps because I wrote in English, not German. 

I have never consider the fiddler’s breath as an issue. Maybe I now need to add one more item to the list of things to think about while fiddling -- as though I don’t have too many already...

Maybe I need to cut down on all that wild panting and gasping when I get rocking! 

Strabo 

  

Or maybe the fiddler does some occasional singing?

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Based on your description, it sounds like the attachment on the tailpiece of the violin in the German folk music video could be a type of violin mute called a "wolf tone eliminator" or "wolf tone suppressor."

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I really doubt it is a wolf tone eliminator or suppressor. I have some on my instruments. Putting that item in the photos where it is is not going to do anything for wolf tines, that I can think of. 

What instrument do you play, howardellis? If you have no objections, maybe you can introduce yourself in the Introduce Yourself forum room? 

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