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Sunken edge of F hole
Sunken edge of F hole on the outside or C bout side
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February 25, 2015 - 9:33 am
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Hello Pierre,

This is my first post.

What makes  a violin have the edge of a F hole on the outside or C bout side sink lower than the surface of the inside  F hole edge.

I have seen this predominantly on the original Cremona fiddles and I assumed that it is because they have dried so much during the years, but I have seen this on new high end violins on either the soundpost  or other side.   Unseasoned woods

Please excuse the lack of question marks, it is not working.

I have been lucky on the four violins that I have owned, the contour follows perfectly.

It really looks ghastly on a new violin.

I really like what you are doing Pierre.

You are inspiring.




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February 25, 2015 - 10:13 am
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Hi Ronald,

I think I understand what you are talking about, and I believe that the difference in height, as it were, is intentional.  It's carved that way if you follow me.  Now I don't know why, maybe for looks, maybe to affect the sound, someone else with more knowledge may be able to answer that.

Check out this video from the 18:30 mark as a Luthier carves and shapes the F-holes on a viola.  It may give you more insight.


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February 25, 2015 - 10:57 am
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I agree.  That's the way they are carved.  The top arches up making the outside of the f-hole lower than the inside.

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February 25, 2015 - 7:41 pm
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With older violins it is because the sound-post keeps the inside part of the f-hole up where as the newer high end violins are sometimes replicas in which they want to imitate this effect. Happens with all violins sooner or later.

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March 4, 2015 - 11:51 am
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I thought I read somewhere that they'll scoop out the edge of the F-hole on that side and make it slightly thinner in that area. It ahs to do with the graduation process in the way they carve the top, the outside should be a bit lower. If I remember reading this correctly it sweetens the high frequency response of the Violin or something like that. It's supposedly very subtle but it's graduated that way on purpose

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