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Hey all, and thank you so much for taking the time to watch my vids. It'll make you laugh, cry, and may result in ear bleeding. So let's get started!
Here is my very first day of practicing! The battery died on my camera so I did not get the whole thing, all I got was a long sorry attempt at playing the C scale, my open finger exercises, and maybe half of the first finger exercises. After that I played FM's G string exercises and D string exercises, and practiced Scarborough Fair and Twinkle Twinkle. I'm sorry I did not get those!
My setup is I'm playing on a Cecilio Electric Violin, unplugged, using no-name bow, strings, and rosin that came with it.
Part 1 - C Scale attempt and Open string exercises
Part 2 - First finger exercises
"I don't play accurately - anyone can play accurately - but I play with wonderful expression."
Algernon Moncrieff (Oscar Wilde's "The Importance of Being Earnest")

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I like to think of the Posture or how you hold the things that are important as first to really get started to play. How you do these things really does have an important effect on everything else you do. So I recommend you watch and really take some time to learn from the fiddlerman vids on the beginners tutorials.
https://fiddlerman.com/tutoria.....tutorials/
The second leg of the four legged stool of violin playing is the bowing. This is very important and of course begins with the bow hold. It is my opinion that you are holding your bow too far down your fingers and should really come closer to the palm of your hand than you are doing it. There are other vids that demo this online of course but here is fiddlermans vids.
https://fiddlerman.com/tutoria.....old-a-bow/
https://fiddlerman.com/tutoria.....e-strings/
Once you have come this far, and there is no rush take your time to feel comfortable with these things. You should begin work on the third leg which in my opinion comes intonation or playing notes, particularly playing them intune. The tutorials on this forum begin with Cmaj scale ie no sharps or flats. which is a fine place to start.
https://fiddlerman.com/tutoria.....-g-string/
Once you have found all the notes on all the strings then you can work on dynamics.
This is the basic road map for beginners to follow before attempting to learn songs. I think preparing the foundation will make learning those songs easier in the long run. Of course there is more to playing the violin than this, this is only the beginning. Take as much time as you need to play the same quality and tone as in the videos.
Good luck.
"Please play some wrong notes, so that we know that you are human" - said to Jascha Heifetz.

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Hello Andie; Good start... just a few comments from someone not far ahead of you. Convention has it that your bow hand should be at the same level as the violin and you seem a little high.The change of position to go between strings is only fractions of an inch. You may still need more rosin on your bow and I suspect you are being too gentle with you bow pressure. We put rosin on the bow to make it sticky to grab the string but we need to create some pressure on the strings. A little more aggression on the strings should give a cleaner sound. And turn on the room lights the violin is too good looking to hide in the dark. If you have a set of external Computer speakers your violin can play through them specially for videos. Keep up the work.
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Hi, Andie: While watching your vid's, I kinda think you have the bowing and fingering concept being difficult for you, kinda like patting your head and rubbing your belly. Work on your bowing first, practice drawing the bow full length across the string's without pause. Practice this without playing any note's until you get to the point of not thinking about it, then start working on your left hand note's.
Your right arm will rise and fall lower than your violin, especially when playing on the G string at the tip of the bow. It's not like a guitar where the string's are all the same height off the surface of the guitar, they are arched, therefore you have to raise your right arm higher and lower than the body of the violin.
I like your vid's, keep posting on your progress.

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Great vid there AndieKae > I'm also very new to this so I can't critique as others that know much more than I. I really enjoyed how you seemed to be trying to find that sound > that note or two that makes it SWEET!!! > What I really liked about your vid was your attitude toward it. You want it and your gonna get it kind of thing>
That kind of attitude will reap much.

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Very nice and thanks for sharing your start. We look forward to watching your progress and growing with you as you learn and gain more skill.
Remember, you don't have to learn it over night. You will get frustrated from time to time thinking you just aren't learning. Then you will realize, you just played something a few days ago was overwhelming. You have a great start. Don't be afraid to ask questions or for pointers. There are several very experienced musicians here and even more in the range from just starting ,like yourself, all the way up to a few years of playing. Welcome to our little home on the web.
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Unless I am wrong, you have a Guarnieri-style chin rest. It has a kind of elongated hump that crosses over the tailpiece. That hump would usually fit snugly under the chin. But I think you are trying to put your chin in the cup of the chin rest. Your jaw or cheek would normally go in the cup.
If I am right, that one mistake is causing you other problems. It is making you turn your face too much toward the scroll. I think it may also be making you tilt your head too far back. Try putting mainly the left side of your face toward the instrument, turning your face more forward, and moving your chin lower.
I see that you are able to hold with no hands. That is a good thing.
I believe your violin is laying too level. I think that is why you are having to raise your bow hand to dizzying heights to reach the G string. The treble side should be lower than the bass side, so that the instrument is tilted and you can bow with your hand and arm lower. Modifications to your chin-rest/shoulder-rest arrangement should fix that.
You are young, and given the pace of medical advances, you might have good vital organs and still be playing 100 years from now. Still, neck transplants might not be an option in the future. So now is the time to pay attention to your playing posture. That is a good reason to get a teacher who can get you started correctly in that regard, and a good reason to try or buy several chin and shoulder rests.
If I were you and could afford lessons, I might call several teachers on the phone and tell them I was starting from scratch and ask them what we would do in a first session. If they didn't mention on their own that they would look at my posture and my hold and my chin and shoulder rest setup, I would be inclined to look for someone else.





Rob - Thank you for the guideline. I am a person who needs something like that to follow otherwise I'm bouncing around somewhat aimlessly. I guess I got impatient and wanted to just play right away. I watched the videos on how to hold the violin and bow, but that was long before I actually had anything to practice with, and once I got the violin I guess I thought I could recall it all from memory. Thank you for mentioning the bow hold. After watching the videos myself I noticed I seemed to hold the bow with my fingertips (and was really annoyed with how straight my pinky was!) I've watched several videos and have been working on it, the middle knuckle of my pinky still wanted to lock and when I'd bend it then my thumb would straighten, but I think I've finally got it down. Now it's just a matter of practicing and practicing so my hand gets used to it.
StoneDog - Thank you so much! I'm especially glad that came through in my video. That is really how I feel, and if there's anything I want to do with violin, it's to express my emotions. If you can tell how I feel and my attitude just from my practicing, then I must be at least doing something right in how I'm expressing myself. I've tried and quit so many things, so I was very hesitant when I thought to myself that I wanted to learn violin. I told myself if I started I could not give up. I wasn't going to give myself that option, so I had to be certain that it's what I really wanted to do. In a way I sort of tried talking myself OUT of learning violin, but my heart just wouldn't have any of that. I knew I wanted to play violin, that I HAD to play violin. It's my biggest encouragement when I start to struggle. I don't care how bad I do; well, I do, I care a lot how bad I do, but whether I struggle or I succeed I will not quit because I am so happy to be learning the violin and to always have something to improve on.

Duane - You were a great help with the rosin you suggested. It may just be me, or maybe just that my bow needed more rosin, but I think it sounds much smoother now. But I feel a lot more confident using a rosin you've recommended.

Mark - Thank you, it's so encouraging to see so many other beginners, as well. It makes this much less lonely. I'm editing my Day 5 practice now, and I have the violin plugged in for that one, so the sound will be much clearer. I can't wait to post it!Thank you all again for your time, your suggestions and encouraging words. It is so nice to have so much help and support. Even if I struggle, I know I can do this because I have such a wonderful community to turn to for help.
"I don't play accurately - anyone can play accurately - but I play with wonderful expression."
Algernon Moncrieff (Oscar Wilde's "The Importance of Being Earnest")





Well, I've been in and out of town a lot and haven't had much time to record or for proper practice, but I have picked up the violin every single day. I refuse to miss a day, even if my practices aren't as substantial as I'd like. I really need to work on that. But I really need a list - Do this for this long, do that this many times, etc.
So I missed my one week progress update, but here I go at two weeks.
"I don't play accurately - anyone can play accurately - but I play with wonderful expression."
Algernon Moncrieff (Oscar Wilde's "The Importance of Being Earnest")

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Andie, you've shown great progress from your first video. You have a sly little look in your eye's and a positive expression on your face, good.
Your left forearm and wrist are nice and straight and your elbow is tucked nicely against your body (under your violin) this is very good.
Now try using the full length of your bow, counting, 1,2,3,4 with each bow stroke from frog to tip. Do this while changing string's.
I also like how you are playing Twinkle and using your pinky finger to play the A on the D string, it's good exercise for stretching the pinky.
You are doing well, keep it up.
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AndieKae said
but here I go at two weeks.
Your left arm position is great.
I would change your bow hold.
You are keeping the bow pretty well on track, although it is not as consistently parallel to the bridge as it probably should be.
Your intonation generally needs some work, but is not too bad.
Your Star of the County Down is incredible. Really great for a beginner. Very well done.

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Thank you all so much, the improvements and your encouragement have been really motivating. I got a lot of help on my bow hold and worked on it for hours yesterday. The tip of my pinky was so sensitive that it even hurt in my dreams last night, haha! I think I've made a big change in my bow hold and can move the bow with my fingers now, if I can remember to do that while playing I'm sure it'll help keep the fingers soft and flexible. I'll try making a video of it today, going back to my open string exercises so that I can focus on just bowing and not have to worry about fingering and intonation.
@suresh I guess the sitting position is comfortable, why?
"I don't play accurately - anyone can play accurately - but I play with wonderful expression."
Algernon Moncrieff (Oscar Wilde's "The Importance of Being Earnest")
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