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TerryT
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I have in my possession my partner's daughters violin (you still with me?)
It's a Stentor Conservatoire which is a level or two up from mine (equates to about £200 or $300 increas) and fitted with dominant strings unlike my own Zyex.
To be honest, I think mine sounds brighter, her's is more mellow (or is that just favouritism?)

On closer inspection I notice that her bridge is less than approx 1/8inch behind the F notches and inside the sound post slopes slightly rearward away from the bridge by about another 1/4 inch.
Would it have been set up like this before sale to acheive the best sound, or is it more likely to have slipped in the last 10-12 years whilst being played by a 10/15 yr old with the 'robustness' of school life!
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Kevin M.
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The bridge has more than likely shifted. The length of the string from the nut to the bridge should be 325mm.  This length is measured from where the string leaves the nut to where it enters the bridge.

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TerryT
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Kevin M. said

The bridge has more than likely shifted. The length of the string from the nut to the bridge should be 325mm.  This length is measured from where the string leaves the nut to where it enters the bridge.

That's what I was thinking from a previous post, but with me as a beginner, I didn't want to go adjusting someone else's instrument willy-nilly, if there was a possibility that, especially with the soundpost position, it was deliberate.
I wonder if it's worth taking to my local shop to get the sound post adjusted?

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Kevin M.
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I would just move the bride and then see how it sounds.  Soundpost rarely move if the strings have tension on them.

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Kevin, how much pressure does the sound post put on the top/belly of the violin without the strings tightened?birthday_balloon

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my soundpost was hand fitted by myself. The old one measured 51.17 mm in length overall, (tapered a bit on each end for the curve of the inside though) and I thought it was a little tight, so when I made the new post, I cut it a tiny bit shorter, like 51.14 mm and it was tight (held itself in without strings on) but not so tight I couldn't move it with firm pressure from my home made post setting tool.

I've seen some soundposts that would fall over at the slightest bump (very short indeed!) without some string tension. It just depends on the violin, and the luthier setting it up I think. I would suggest it be as perpendicular as possible with the top surface. No more than 1 post diameter back from the bridge to start.

Correct me if I'm wrong Kevin. 

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Kevin M.
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I like to set my posts up so they are just barely stuck there. The idea is to not put prussure on the top but rather to keep it where it is.  If it is too tight without strings it will be stretching out the top and cutting down on the vibration. If the strings are not on and you gave a good rap on the side the soundpost should fall out.  When adjusting a soundpost the strings are kept tuned and the sounpost is tapped to move it.  Violins with tight posts have been known to go right through the violin or dent the inside where it sits.

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Fiddlerman
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That makes lot's of sense Kevin.

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