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stringy said
If I was down there I would come and listen, mind you its not exactly flying from the north, nearly as expensive on the train as flying to the states though.
Yeah, I went to Edinburgh by plane once. And my other half went to Glasgow by train. Never again, she said, and not just because of the expense.
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I bought a Polly mute for my viola. They are over-priced, but what can you do?
The sound is fine, but there is a caveat: - whereas Spector and shield mutes are pushed onto the bridge, the Polly has to be lifted onto the bridge. This is potentially dangerous, as if you forget or are unaware and push too hard you can push the bridge over. Nearly happened to me first time I used it.
I must compare it with my shield mute (the Spector resides on the violin currently)
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I'd been having problems with my E string - Optima Goldbrokat.
It was much flatter plucked than bowed, although it was also flatter if bowed loud. Trying to get perfect fifths with the A string was impossible - I played a D on the A string and then had to finger a Bb on the E string to get an A! It also warbled a lot.
So today I put on a Prim medium tension E and everything seems perfect. (my A string is also a Prim, albeit orchestral, so I'll keep my ear open for inequalities between the two)
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I made a curious find in the Oxfam shop yesterday - not one, but two identical copies of Orlando Gibbons' (no relation to Grinling, assuming AI knows what it's talking about) Six Fantasias for six viols (plus organ), all parts complete. £3.49 per copy, so I speculatively bought both of them. The six parts are basically for two cellos, two violas and two violins. Here's number 2. Now, I have a violin and a viola and a Yamaha piano that has an organ voice, but I have absolutely no plans to buy a cello.
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Last night we had a sectional rehearsal, my first with the orchestra, and it was very interesting. V1,V2 and violas together in one room, cellos in another and brass and woodwind somewhere else.
We were led by our concert mistress and we played everything slowly, which was nice. It was informative - there's a philosophy that in Wagner there's much that shouldn't be precise but rather hammered away at for the impression (I had a next-door neighbour my parents' age, in fact he was my first piano teacher until we found someone better, although I still had to practise on his piano, and he was a self-taught bassist who insisted on being impressionistic in a community orchestra with two other basses, but I don't know the piece, and I don't think he lasted long). Our leader commented that she had witnessed a rehearsal with the National Youth Orchestra and they played Wagner with precision and it sounded odd and not nice. (there's a musicologists' joke that Wagner's music is better than it sounds)
We played an Elfrida Andrée piece from 1873, but playing it impressionistically would have been bad - the harmonies when played slowly (between 4:30 and 5:00 in the video below) could be heard to be too intricate and sophisticated for that, although playing it full speed, we won't all be able to convey any of that, as it's also hard to hear in the video played well at full speed.
We also learnt something about sautillé that I've never seen in any book by Fischer or Galamian - it should sound different from détaché - play fast 16th Ds on your A string starting at the tip - that's détaché - then work towards the frog: when every note starts with a K sound, that's sautillé (although the stricter definition is that the bowhair always makes contact with the strings, but the bow shaft bounces (Fr. sautille) up and down of its own accord). I'm working on the K sound with my teacher in Kreutzer and Bach, but when it's slower you have to do it consciously, in the middle of the bow. With sautillé it happens automatically when you are close enough to the frog. Go closer to the frog and the bow will bounce all over the place uncontrollably.
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Here's a curious thing.
I'm trying to do a half hour's viola practice every day.
That involves a three octave C major scale and Sevick Op.8 and Telemann's first mov.
I found that 7th position on my C string is much better than 7th position on my violin's G string, but 7th position on my viola's G string is not good. Hmm.
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Dont know about 7th position, highest I go is 5th, I can play tunes higher up but with the simple stuff I play I dont have much need for it, obviously different for you with the orchestra stuff. I find higher up things take on box shapes similar to guitar scales. Of course viola is a bigger instrument anyway so spacings I would imagine are different, or is it the same length neck as fiddle and notes in same place
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I find higher up things take on box shapes similar to guitar scales.
Yes, any string instrument will have box shapes. It comes under the heading of Group Theory in maths.
As for the usefulness of 7th position on the G string, it's not even of use in orchestra. It only crops up in advanced solo work, which I won't be bothering with.
The cusp includes things like Czardas and Ravel's Berceuse sur le nom de Gabriel Fauré, which is made a little more complicated by the use of the mute. But in fact that only goes up to B (video at 1:35), which I'm happy with. C is where my playing gets ugly! I'm being a wimp of course - it's all about practice. But I just asked my teacher about this, and her violin (Italian on loan) sounds just as good up at C, D, E as it does in first position.
Sevcik Op.8 is about shifting, so it goes up to 10th position on the G string if you want, which is pointless as far as I'm concerned, especially if your violin is not up to it.
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Gordon Shumway said
I'd been having problems with my E string - Optima Goldbrokat.It was much flatter plucked than bowed, although it was also flatter if bowed loud. Trying to get perfect fifths with the A string was impossible - I played a D on the A string and then had to finger a Bb on the E string to get an A! It also warbled a lot.
So today I put on a Prim medium tension E and everything seems perfect. (my A string is also a Prim, albeit orchestral, so I'll keep my ear open for inequalities between the two)
[added: to explain the above further - tuned the old E string with a tuner, but fingered notes were a semitone flatter than they should have been compared with the A string. Is that just an example of an E string going bad after 2 months, or is it a bad E string for my violin? It meant a continual recalibration of my E string fingerings, and, now that I have replaced it with a good string, another recalibration - particularly annoying if you are working on something like Kreutzer #3]
I've always made the odd harsh note with my A string, especially B, and I made a couple at orchestra today (when you have to play loud, you have to play loud), so this afternoon I replaced it with a Prim medium tension. When I first got the violin it had Dominants, except for the A string, which was a Dominant Light. I'll never know if that was deliberate or accidental. When the G and D strings are Vision Solos* again or Vision Titanium solos*, all my strings will be medium tension, and I'll probably keep it that way.
*afaik, "solo" strings are usually lower tension than "orchestral" strings. Unfortunately I also have some Vision Titanium Orchestras, so I'll have to play them out some time to find out what they are like.
[added: my violist friend says "an orchestral player is likely to choose different strings to a chamber music player etc" Yes, so I'm happy to use gentler strings for chamber music, soloing and orchestra - at least in orchestra then I can feel less constrained. Why would I want to be heard?]
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Gordon Shumway said
I like the Kun and Artino expansion mechanisms (the Artino is more adjustable than the Kun). I have a need for the rest to extend over my shoulder (that was one of the original attractions of the Bon Musica), and you can achieve this, although the fastening nut becomes hard to access, but even there, since these rests are cheap, you can superglue the mechanism over your shoulder and just have the other foot adjustable.
Bad news about the Artino - the rubber is peeling off fairly quickly after purchase. But even so, I think that it's so cheap that if I buy a couple and have some rubber cement and a yoga mat and/or a drawer liner for cutting out new bits of rubber, the Artino may still be a keeper.
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Gordon Shumway said
Bad news about the Artino - the rubber is peeling off fairly quickly after purchase. But even so, I think that it's so cheap that if I buy a couple and have some rubber cement and a yoga mat and/or a drawer liner for cutting out new bits of rubber, the Artino may still be a keeper.
Some non-slip rubber arrived today. If it turns out to be OTT for relining shoulder rests, I can use it as a non-slip shower mat (some of these materials are non-slip when used as shower mats, but they do slip on clothing. I don't want to take it out of its wrapper yet and unroll it.). I've got an imitation Artino (even cheaper), but it's a little bit more flexible than an Artino, which is not optimum - I think they should be rigid so as not to move on the violin. If I were better at woodwork I'd carve out a wooden one myself.
December's orchestra rep is as follows: -
Alan Taylor Prelude Remembering the civilian victims of warfare
Mahler Totenfeier
Prokofiev Selections from 'Romeo and Juliet'
Ideally I'd practise them over the summer, but it looks as though only the Mahler is available on IMSLP, and if the Prokofiev is, it's anyone's guess exactly which version it might be. And afaicr the ones on IMSLP are handwritten Russian oddities.
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I used an Artino shoulder rest for about 11 years. Eventually I stopped using it because the foam came off all at once. If I remember correctly, it only started to peel in the last two months before falling off altogether. I didn't bother trying to repair it because I was never entirely satisfied with the shape to begin with.

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Gordon Shumway said
December's orchestra rep is as follows: -
Alan Taylor Prelude Remembering the civilian victims of warfareMahler Totenfeier
Prokofiev Selections from 'Romeo and Juliet'
This was interesting - I had looked for the Taylor on Youtube etc and not found anything, then tonight by chance one of our horn players mentioned to me on the bus that Alan Taylor was one of our violists! So I spoke to Alan in the interval. He did a masters in composition and wrote the piece 10 years ago. Its original title was politically provocative enough to get a bishop involved in somewhat of a controversy over it, but now finally it is to be performed. Apparently it's simple and discordant, so nothing to worry about.
That just leaves dredging some random Prokofiev from IMSLP and practising the hard bits in case they are useful (there's basically 51 pages of stuff in three suites). Pity I wasn't able to take part in Peter and the Wolf in September.
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Lesson #34 today.
Teacher thinks the Bon Musica is better for me than the Artino.
While rummaging in a crate for the Bon Musica, I found my 90mm Artino Magic Pad - SR-11. Its top layer is some kind of synthetic velvet which has a very high coefficient of friction with clothing. It might be useful to get some of that for other shoulder rests if I can identify and source it.
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My Spector mute has become loose on the bridge. I think the rubber has worn away, enlarging the grooves. I haven't used it a lot. I guess I'll switch to my shield mute rather than replace it.
I had some store credit, so I bought a Roth Sihon violin and a Roth Sihon viola (I forgot I already had a viola Polly!)
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I just put a Roth Sihon mute on my violin.
It was a terrifying experience. Whereas Youtube videos make it look so easy.
I compared it with my viola Roth Sihon, which was much easier to put on, and found a manufacturing error which can just about be seen in this photo.
The subtle problem is the upwards curvature of the bits that have to go under the strings, making it a fierce struggle getting them under the strings. But more indicative that there's a manufacturing fault is that the part nearest the camera lens is bent the opposite way from the viola one. (violin on left, viola on right). What do you think, Pierre? @Fiddlerman
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Woo Hoo!
I've been given an unopened fresh ootb HTC Desire 610 (a friend found one in the loft of a house he was prepping for the estate agent he works for). I put an EE SIM in today (those nanosims are fiddly little suckers) and phoned a friend so that the phone can convert itself to my old mobile number (good riddance, Tesco!).
Then I will get a holder and take it to our next gig and see if I can record us (it's less intrusive than a tablet)
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