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Mouse's Cubby Hole Part 2
The first blog, Mouse's Cubby Hole, seems to take a long time to load now, so I am starting a part 2.
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SNOW! Really? And there are still flurries going on? Really? Id I did Easter, it would be, I'm dreaming of a white Easter!" 

I received my two black circle pads and chinrest from Fiddlershop. I have to get used to them, or try to get used to them. First thought is the circle pad to replace a shoulder rest is a good quality, I am just not sure if it will work for me, but the pad, itself, is a good quality. The chinrest is good quality, also. Like the Fiddlershop Freedom, this Fiddlershop Comfort is exactly that. Because of its wonderful finish and very smooth edges, although it is wood, it is soft. I am hoping it will work because I do feel the difference in the wood, itself, compared to other wooden chinrests. 

I am hoping this will work. 🤞

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Snow is gone and now we have normal temps, unless the norm for this time of year is changing. Maybe the winters are going to come later, which they have the past few years, and will drag on into the spring more. I hope not.

Well, I have not been able to sit and give my new set up a go and make adjustments yet. Bummer. I was thinking, when I received the circular foam pads for under the violin, that I might have to use both under the violin. Double it up. I bought one for my violin and one for my viola, so maybe double it up. 

I liked the feel of not having the shoulder rest, for the short time I tried it a couple of days ago, but it did seem a little too flat. I like the feel of the left arm and hand fingers stretching. But, it did seem like I needed a little more height. We will see when I am able to actually sit and play. Who knows, I might end up back at square one. 

Not interested in the thick foam thingies. Too much foam.

I got tired of the shoulder rests always falling off, and nine of them gave me any support or whatever where I really wanted it. Not saying this because this is Fiddlerman's forum, but the Fiddlerman shoulder rest was the best fit. The Kun was a close second, but not quite as good for me as the Fiddlerman one. But, neither was exactly right. 

When I did take violin lessons, my instructor said she does not help with set up, she is no longer teaching. But, since she was my first connection with an instructor for violin, I figured that was the norm. So, I really do not know how it is to sit, exactly, or how much support the shoulder rest is to give, exactly. These foam pads are not expensive, so it is worth a shot. 

Please no videos or links about set up. I have seen enough of them. They do not help me at all, and end out with me buying even more shoulder and chin rests.

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April is very variable in London. Sometimes we can have a heatwave and sometimes it can snow.

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We have had snow in early May, here, but that is rare. I am hoping we don't have a snowy Mother's Day, May 11. 

I really want to work n Raglan Road, but I have a headache. Not sure it would be a good idea, or helpful. My pad screen brightness is turned down. 

The last time I did play, I was still loving the bows..

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When I did take violin lessons, my instructor said she does not help with set up, she is no longer teaching. But, since she was my first connection with an instructor for violin, I figured that was the norm. So, I really do not know how it is to sit, exactly, or how much support the shoulder rest is to give, exactly. These foam pads are not expensive, so it is worth a shot. 

She was not a good teacher. The fingerboard should form a stable platform for your LH fingers, and the teacher should help you if you have difficulty achieving that. They'll walk around you and tell you where support seems lacking or if your neck is bent too much.

I just bought an Artino 'Ergo' Shoulder Rest for Violin & Viola and a 90mm Artino gelpad, btw. They should arrive this afternoon, along with two pairs of Vision Titanium strings.

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@Gordon Shumway She wasn't very good. But, she was the only violin teacher I could find around here. Decided it wasn't worth the money. My cello teacher was excellent.

So, when I have the finger sitting in  the gap between the index finger and thumb, I should not have to grip it? The shoulder rest should be giving it stability? I always have to grip, not like hanging on for dear life, but to keep it from moving around and changing angles. 

Is there much of a curve from shoulder down to chest in the shoulder rest? It looks like a similar curve to the Kun. I have been, but have given up, looking for one more "S" shape, not the Bon Musica. It more or less hooks over the shoulder, I am , or was, looking for lift at the chest.

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 when I have the finger sitting in  the gap between the index finger and thumb, I should not have to grip it? The shoulder rest should be giving it stability?  

Shoulder(rest) and chin(rest) combined should hold the instrument steady, allowing freedom of movement of left hand..

Is there much of a curve from shoulder down to chest in the shoulder rest? It looks like a similar curve to the Kun. I have been, but have given up, looking for one more "S" shape, not the Bon Musica. It more or less hooks over the shoulder, I am , or was, looking for lift at the chest.  

I bought the Artino Ergo mainly for the viola (but with the possibility of replacing the annoying Bon Musica also in mind) because I had seen one at our last gig, and the distance from the rest to the instrument was only a millimeter or two, which I though might be useful, as I have a short neck.

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@Mouse

I understand the challenges involved in finding a position for the fiddle that is both comfortable and functional.

I got started without a teacher, but I had lots and lots of free advice from books, videos and the internet. I tried all kinds of chin rests, also foam pads and those awful shoulder rests (hate ‘em!). It was a frustrating process, and sometimes painful (neck and shoulder issues).

I saw a Fiddlerman video that  showed that it’s possible to play the violin without a shoulder rest. That gave me hope that I could eventually figure out something that would work. I eventually did come up with a solution that is quite functional for me. 

The solution did not come from a teacher or from any of the many internet gurus. It was just plenty of trial and error -- trying one thing and another, trusting my own judgment, and keeping faith that a solution would eventually present itself. It did.

I’m sure it will work for you as well.

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Maybe my headache will subside, and I can give my foam disc setup plan a better try later. This discussion with Gordon Shumway and Strabo has me wanting to work on it. This forum is really a great motivator; at least for me.

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Made me laugh when you said the rest kept falling off, I have always had that same problem, I use a wolf forte primo at the moment but have about half a dozen different ones. For quite a while I had the lower leg too high. I still find holding the fiddle a bit of a chore, but not as painful as it used to be, doesnt help that I am by nature a very tense person.

I have had 1 violin lesson and thats it, never had a teacher at all, I used the Applebaum books, and trial and error, I like learning myself, I had never read music, apart from recorder at school, but it helps that my entire family are, or should I say were musical, (you have heard my niece if you remember). Personally I think for the type of music I play, and for my goals which are not to play in orchestras or anything I dont need a teacher. 

The weather were I live isnt great, from xmas to a week ago, it never went above 5 degrees c, hopefully very soon though I will be travelling again, and cant wait for the warmth of Europe, first stop this year will be Marseille,, went to nice last year and monte carlo, 

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Made me laugh when you said the rest kept falling off, I have always had that same problem, I use a wolf forte primo at the moment but have about half a dozen different ones. For quite a while I had the lower leg too high. I still find holding the fiddle a bit of a chore, but not as painful as it used to be, doesnt help that I am by nature a very tense person.

Not to wish bad luck on you, but I am glad I am not alone. 😂 It always sounds like you are glad so someone has an issue when the person says, "I am glad I am not alone," when they can relate to your issue. 

I have had 1 violin lesson and thats it, never had a teacher at all, I used the Applebaum books, and trial and error, I like learning myself, I had never read music, apart from recorder at school, but it helps that my entire family are, or should I say were musical, (you have heard my niece if you remember). Personally I think for the type of music I play, and for my goals which are not to play in orchestras or anything I dont need a teacher. 

I don't think this type of music needs a teacher, either. It seems to me it is pretty much by feel or interpretation of a song, and a lot of fiddle tunes are changed a little by each fiddler. From what I could tell, teachers tend to lean towards stiff playing, classical only, no room for loose playing. Classical is not bad, but if you are a fiddler, I have noticed it is a different kind of playing. So, not cutting down classical violinists. I am kind of a whatever suits me at the time. If I like the piece, be it fiddle, pop, easy classical, I am willing to give it a try. 

Yes, I remember your niece! Loved it! I need to find that post again, and listen again, for the umpteenth time. It has been a while, so I need to find the link.  

The weather were I live isnt great, from xmas to a week ago, it never went above 5 degrees c, hopefully very soon though I will be travelling again, and cant wait for the warmth of Europe, first stop this year will be Marseille,, went to nice last year and monte carlo, 

Today is turning out to be a fairly decent day, 68°F. It is quite windy though, so outside it feels a lot chillier. 

I think I might be able to get my Lord Wilton down this evening. I am feeling better. I even have a cake in the oven. Not from scratch, a Betty Crocker mix, so it was not very strenuous to do. Just add the eggs, water, and oil, and mix it up. No big mess to clean up.

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I did get a metronome, like @ABitRusty's, but the reddish one. Of course, I love red! 

I tried using it today. I was doing Raglan Road. I wish I could hear the bell ding a little more easily. I do have an issue with the longer notes, tied notes, etc. I loose count.

I like the pendulum. I can see it with my peripheral vision, which is an immense help. 

I am wondering, when a sheet music says, "quarter note = 96" Does that mean that played as the person who wrote or arranged the piece would have had a metronome at 96, if (s)he was using one? I did set the metronome at 96, after playing at a slower tempo, and it seemed to work, by working up to 96 from a slightly slower tempo.

I liked using it, but, I do wish I could hear the bell. I I could never end on the correct beat, and I think if I could hear the bell, it would be better. 

I will keep at it. It was my first time with the metronome.

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I am wondering, when a sheet music says, "quarter note = 96" Does that mean that played as the person who wrote or arranged the piece would have had a metronome at 96, if (s)he was using one? I did set the metronome at 96, after playing at a slower tempo, and it seemed to work, by working up to 96 from a slightly slower tempo.

 

I would say that every click would be a quarter note.  and would try and set the metronome to 96-ish if following a sheet music "quarter note =96"  i juat cant remember if the scale has a '96' on it or not.  unable to look today

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There was a 96, 😁.

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to get the bell correct per time division you have to pull out the slide on the side of case to correct spot also.  theres numbers

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to get the bell correct per time division you have to pull out the slide on the side of case to correct spot also.  theres numbers

  

Yes. I do that. I just cannot hear it over my violin. I wish it was louder, 🥴

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Ok, back. I hope to be more active here again, and on my Violaman blog.

Bummer. I went to take good ol' Lord Wilton off the wall, and lo and behold, he popped a string while I was gone. The D string broke. Little devil was curled up. Broke at the ball. It is too late to change it tonight, so I got one of my other violins down and played through some pieces.

Tomorrow, good ol' Lord Wilton will get a new set of strings. I don't just change one. They were all put on at the same time, most likely the others will wear out soon. I will have a backup G, A and E string. 

I am going to play my viola more, also. I actually have a piece I do on my violin that I really want to play on my viola, also, 🤞.

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Changed the strings. I hate doing that, too stressful. Yeo, popped the bridge. I was being so careful. I was following along with one of Fiddlerman's tutorials. Please, no videos or links. I need to do it just one way. I just hate doing this. 

I played a little, but had to keep retuning, so I stopped. They have to do what they do and settle in. 

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The bridge fell over?

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Yep. Popped again. Right off the violin to beside it. At least it did not go flying and break like the last time. Changing strings is not on my list of fun things to do. I kept checking. Then I was almost done with the A string, but needed one more little tweak before I could use the fine tuners, and there it went. 

I used a ruler to line ir back up. I had to start over with the G and D strings because they needed to be loosened to insert the bridge again. The E string didn't matter, I had to change that anyway. 

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