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Fiddlerman
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September 23, 2022 - 11:18 am
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Here is my rough draft. Including the XML file for those of you who wish to play with it on your own apps/programs.

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Oh, you Techies! 

What am I supposed to do with an XML file?

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@ELCBK - Can be taken into MuseScore or other score editor. Or just use the pdf.

@Fiddlerman - Which staff should be used for viola (or cello or bass)?

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@JohnG, I suspect that Fiddlerman has not created the score for the viola and cello yet. 

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Here’s a screen capture of Fiddlerman's draft file (i.e., his attached XML file posted above) playing in Musescore so you all can hear it:

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@SharonC -

THANK YOU! 

 

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Now, y'all are going to to hate me, but this does NOT sound right. 

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Fiddlerman
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JohnG said
@ELCBK - Can be taken into MuseScore or other score editor. Or just use the pdf.

@Fiddlerman - Which staff should be used for viola (or cello or bass)?

Like John said, just use the PDF file. I know that some people like to use this file to get a head start on audio files and such. I don't want to put it all together until I'm done with it.

John, with the viola, you could use all four. With cello or bass, the fourth clef, and I will most likely write a separate part with the bass line of the chord. I'm also OK with someone writing a bass part and sending it to me for approval.

I try not to work on the weekend but I know that I'm too slow for a lot of you guys. lol

Did you listen to it?

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Mouse said
@JohnG, I suspect that Fiddlerman has not created the score for the viola and cello yet. 

I think of it as a four part theme first with the notes from the chords then transpose for our viola and cello players.

The reason I do it this way is that Fiddlerman.com was primarily a violin learning site but I love having all the string players here and want as many people to partake as possible. If I wrote separate parts or other instruments we would have a very lopsided performance. Violists will play the same part as violinists and cellos as well unless I add a bass line to give it a fuller sound.

Transposing takes seconds....

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SharonC said
Here’s a screen capture of Fiddlerman's draft file (i.e., his attached XML file posted above) playing in Musescore so you all can hear it:

Thanks Sharon,
This is what I know a lot of you want to do. Remember that it's a draft. I might not change much but what do you think of it. With group projects it's best to keep a steady beat, but theoretically I could stretch some phrase endings after it's all mixed.

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I like it.  I think a bass line drone will add a lot to it, too. 

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Fiddlerman said
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I think of it as a four part theme first with the notes from the chords then transpose for our viola and cello players. . .

Not sure if this is helpful to imagine the sound balance, but here’s the same draft with the 3rd part transposed down to Viola, & the 4th part to Cello, with some balancing between the parts.

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@Fiddlerman asked

 Did you listen to it?

I did, first thing I did after I brought it into MuseScore and was disappointed. Hard to pick out the melody, BUT I think it might just be the even dynamics generated by the program. I haven't tried setting the 2-3 clefs to quieter levels. I suspect that mixing can make it great.

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@SharonC -

Thanks, that helped me! 🤗

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The version that you guys love is mostly melody with very faint accompaniment. That is easily achieved. We can have as many people as possible play the melody and just pick one harmony to play. As you noticed, there were no dynamics in the mix that Sharon put together. It's very hard to hear Yo-Yo in the Alison Krauss arrangement for example, same for all the other parts. You mostly heard Alison singing the melody which is what I planned on doing. The bass line will be a little stronger but the melody will still over power everything else.

Also, remember that the synth is not musical.

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@Fiddlerman -

Thank you for explaining. 🥰

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I absolutely love this!!!  When the draft was posted, I immediately played through all four parts on my violin and it’s lovely.  I also like the timing nuances in Part 1.

Thank you @Fiddlerman for the swift, smooth selection of the Christmas 2022 piece and the very quick posting of the draft.  

I think everyone needs to relax and have faith, as always, in Fiddlerman Pierre’s talent, expertise, and commitment in creating and producing another spectacular group project.  This will shine when real musicians play real music on real instruments with real expression and a professional mix.

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Unfretted said
I think everyone needs to relax and have faith, as always, in Fiddlerman Pierre’s talent, expertise, and commitment in creating and producing another spectacular group project.  This will shine when real musicians play real music on real instruments with real expression and a professional mix. 

I agree, Pierre always delivers a great GP! 

I'm looking forward to the final draft.

 

I do apologize for my obtrusiveness in this thread - not the place for me to indulge in my unconventional way of learning.  ...so deleted my one post.

The discussion piqued my curiosity enough that I spent the last couple days discovering more about Renaissance music; it's chord progressions, counterpoint, harmony, cadences, etc... and changes leading into Baroque.  It helped me get closer to understanding why I like this music. 

THANK YOU ALL! 🤗 

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Fiddlerman
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This is the last post here before I create the new forum thread for the Xmas 2022 project.

I just wanted to follow up on our past conversation.

Here is the project as it stands now. I may make changes. and PLEASE remember that these midi projects won't sound like a high quality recording that you are comparing to with world musicians. It's just a midi file with general midi instruments.

However, I made a quick MP3 with the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th parts diminished so as to hear the melody more and I added a very basic bass line.

There are no tempo fluctuations as it's hard to do with a group project. However, I will have fermatas when I mix the parts for real later on. My own musically interpreted fermatas and ritardando at the end.

Thanks to all of you who have confidence in me above. :)

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